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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	alex@csgraf.de, nolan@sigbus.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add HTTP protocol using curl v2
Date: Wed, 06 May 2009 08:08:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A018BC8.8040206@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090506093143.GC23167@redhat.com>

Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 11:14:17AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>   
>> Daniel P. Berrange schrieb:
>>     
>>> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 03:00:50AM +0200, alex@csgraf.de wrote:
>>>       
>>>> From: Alexander Graf <alex@csgraf.de>
>>>>
>>>> Currently Qemu can read from posix I/O and NBD. This patch adds a
>>>> third protocol to the game: HTTP.
>>>>
>>>> In certain situations it can be useful to access HTTP data directly,
>>>> for example if you want to try out an http provided OS image, but
>>>> don't know if you want to download it yet.
>>>>
>>>> Using this patch you can now try it on on the fly. Just use it like:
>>>>
>>>> qemu -cdrom http://host/path/my.iso
>>>>         
>>> I rather think there should be an explicit flag to allow use of http://
>>> URLs in filenames at runtime, not just 'configure' time. There are many
>>> apps out there using QEMU which will be assuming QEMU treats all disk
>>> paths as local files, and thus not got explicit code to check whether 
>>> a URI is passed. I could well see that some will consider it a security
>>> issue to allow QEMU to download off the net, but if they updated to
>>> a new QEMU with this patch, downloading would be allowed by default.
>>>       
>> If apps want to be sure that they are accessing a local file, they must
>> ensure not to have a colon in the file name. Otherwise this specifies a
>> protocol for the qemu block layer.
>>     
>
> Using paths with a colon in the file name is pretty critical if
> you wish to configure VMs with block devices using a stable path
> like those under /dev/disk/by-path/ - they pretty much all contain
> colons, and are the only good stable path for iSCSI or FibreChannel
> block devices.
>
>   
>> Btw, we could use a way to escape colons in a file name. Using such
>> files isn't possible currently.
>>
>>     
>>> Perhaps only enable these remote URIs with the -drive parameter, when
>>> an explicit fmt=http option is set. But can this be layered into the
>>> other protocols, eg could the remote URI be in qcow, vmdk, etc formats,
>>> or are you assuming the remote uri is raw file ?
>>>       
>> It should work with all formats. This is why fmt=http is wrong. It's not
>> a format, but a protocol.
>>     
>
> Then I'd prefer we add a protocol=XXX option for magic protocols. This 
> would be easier to use & clearer than requiring escaping of magic 
> characters, eg
>   

It just exacerbates the problem.  The comma is also a special character 
so now to avoid problems with ':' as a special character, you're relying 
on another special character.

We absolutely need escaping.  I have no doubt about that.

 From a human readable perspective though, I think we could introduce a 
"file:" protocol which ensured that we used a local file protocol.  For 
instance,

 -drive file=file:/some/path

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-06 13:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-06  1:00 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add HTTP protocol using curl v2 alex
2009-05-06  8:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-06  9:14   ` Kevin Wolf
2009-05-06  9:31     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-06  9:40       ` Alexander Graf
2009-05-06  9:57       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-06 10:00         ` Kevin Wolf
2009-05-06 10:06         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-06 10:13           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-06 10:15             ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-06 10:15             ` Alexander Graf
2009-05-06 13:11               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 10:16             ` Kevin Wolf
2009-05-06 10:23               ` Alexander Graf
2009-05-06 10:24               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-06 10:09         ` Alexander Graf
2009-05-06 13:09         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 13:59           ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-06 14:08             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 14:14               ` François Revol
2009-05-06 13:12         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 13:39           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-06 13:43             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 13:50             ` Kevin Wolf
2009-05-06 13:59               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 14:11                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-05-06 14:39                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-06 14:48                     ` Alexander Graf
2009-05-06 14:49                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-06 16:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-08 17:00                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-06 14:49                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-05-06 13:08       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-05-06 10:43     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-06 12:59   ` Anthony Liguori

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