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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Cc: Qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Simon Bienlein <simon@linux-fuer-blinde.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Question about KVM and PC speaker
Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 10:12:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A0297D2.4040009@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E97885C6D2F9452787A435FD179215B0@FSCPC>

Sebastian Herbszt wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> Sebastian Herbszt wrote:
>>> Simon Bienlein wrote:
>>>> Is a support for BIOS worked on right now?
>>>
>>> The vgabios (vgabios.c) has a "FIXME should beep". Volker, do you plan
>>> to fix this?
>>>
>>> Which frequency should be used for the beep? Which delay?
>>
>> I would try 1 KHz and some hundred milliseconds.
> 
> I just looked at some vga bios and it uses about 896,45 Hz.
> 
>>> Getting a delay using "inb(0x61) & 0x10" is still a no go on qemu,
>>> right?
>>
>> Looks like (should be far too inaccurate for longer delays). What about
>> 0x40:0x6c, the BIOS' daily timer counter?
> 
> The bios i looked at used the refresh request port 0x61. This is
> supported by bochs and
> there is also a patch for qemu to replace the dummy [1]. The rombios
> uses this to provide
> INT 15h AH=86h functionality; this is likely broken with the dummy code
> in qemu.

I see no problem with improving qemu's emulation accuracy this way a
bit. But I wouldn't built new delay implementations on top of it,
specifically if the code is in fact aware of running over a hypervisor.
Such micro-timings are far too inaccurate for longer delays in an
environment where you cannot be sure of running all the time during that
period.

> 
> Anyway, using "timer ticks since midnight" should be possible (INT 08h
> handler is set up
> before vga bios is called).
> 
> [1] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.bochs.devel/7594
> 
> - Sebastian
> 

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2009-05-07  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-22 19:02 [Qemu-devel] Question about KVM and PC speaker Simon Bienlein
2009-04-23  7:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-04-23  8:32   ` Samuel Thibault
2009-04-23  9:06     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-04-23  9:23       ` Samuel Thibault
2009-04-23  9:15     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-23  9:25       ` Samuel Thibault
2009-04-23  9:33         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-23  9:50           ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-23 10:29             ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-23 11:09               ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-23 17:42                 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-04 16:34               ` Simon Bienlein
2009-05-04 20:29                 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-04 20:56                   ` Samuel Thibault
2009-05-04 21:00                     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-05 15:59                       ` Simon Bienlein
2009-05-05 22:34                         ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-06 10:34                           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-06 20:55                             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-07  8:12                               ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-05-09 22:21                                 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-12  7:32                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-12 21:06                                     ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-12 21:50                                       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-05-12 22:21                                         ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-12 22:27                                           ` Samuel Thibault
2009-05-12 22:37                                           ` malc
2009-05-14 19:48                                             ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-14 22:01                                               ` malc

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