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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Stanislav <stlintel@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Anthony Liguori' <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	'Dustin Kirkland' <kirkland@canonical.com>,
	'Glauber Costa' <glommer@gmail.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ron minnich <rminnich@gmail.com>,
	'Avi Kivity' <avi@redhat.com>, 'Alex Graf' <alex@csgraf.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/4] Add GPL bios as a submodule
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 18:22:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A109C3E.70604@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <000101c9d71e$8888fec0$999afc40$@com>

Stanislav wrote:
>> What does Coreboot give us over seabios?
>>     
>
> You asking :)
>
> - It is much better maintained and sponsored by technology leaders (IBM,
> AMD, Intel).
>   

Take a look at who has been contributing to patches to the Bochs BIOS 
lately via QEMU :-)

>   Also as I understood some of bios stuff is patented, IBM bought these
> patents and contributed them to Coreboot project.
>   

Can you point me to specific information about this?

> - I expect it will do support all recent stuff (new ACPI specs, UEFI and
> etc) much faster than seabios.
>   

I find this very unlikely.  I don't think coreboot bothers with things 
like building ACPI tables.  Why would it have to when it has a full 
Linux environment?

Also, I find it very unlikely that it would bother support uefi 
interfaces.  Maybe provide tiano core as a payload but we could always 
just use tiano core on top of QEMU directly.  The problem with uefi is 
that you still need a CSM to support 99% of guests out there which means 
that you would still need a seabios module for tiano core.

> - It is written for real modern hardware as well so it is validated on real
> life as well.
>   

It's a neat project and I think it's valuable to make it more easily 
used in QEMU, but I don't think it can replace our existing BIOS.  I 
also don't think that that's its general mission statement either.  I 
think its primary purpose is to eliminate all the legacy firmware junk 
and provide the quickest and most featureful environment for large clusters.

>> Doesn't Coreboot use seabios for legacy OS?
>>     
>
> No idea ...
>   

It does.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-17 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-17 15:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4][RFC] Bring ROM source into tree via git submodules Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Add GPL bios as a submodule Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:43   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:49     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 16:23       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 17:51         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-17 18:03           ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 18:05           ` Stanislav
2009-05-17 18:11             ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 18:37               ` Stanislav
2009-05-17 19:07                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 22:12                   ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-05-17 22:40                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 23:22                 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-05-18 15:20                   ` ron minnich
2009-05-18  2:40                 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-05-17 23:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-18  4:22               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-25 13:04                 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-05-17 23:09         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 23:23           ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 23:31             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 23:40               ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-18  1:17                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-18  5:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 17:10   ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-05-17 15:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add submodule for VGABios Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Update makefile to build roms Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 15:46   ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:47     ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 17:16       ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 23:10         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 22:04       ` Paul Brook
2009-05-17 23:28         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-17 23:43           ` Paul Brook
2009-05-18  1:18             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-18  4:24             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-18  8:25               ` Riku Voipio
2009-05-18  8:35                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-17 15:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Allow tool chain to be specified for bios build Anthony Liguori

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