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From: Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>
To: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	ajax@redhat.com, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Change virtio-console to PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_OTHER
Date: Sun, 31 May 2009 17:35:58 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2295CE.309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1243590193.13990.73.camel@blaa>

Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-05-29 at 00:45 +0300, Dor Laor wrote:
>
>   
>> Nevertheless, as Anthony states, guest ABI should be rock stable.
>> We should have mechanism (machine conf format++) that will enable us
>> to configure pci addresses, cpuid entries, memory layout, device 
>> existence (hpet, virtio-console,..), etc.
>>
>> Anyhow, I did sent a patch to allow virtio block to parametrized class 
>> value -
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2009-05/msg01189.html
>> There wasn't a perfect match with finding the right interface to change 
>> it, happy to hear
>> other alternatives if you're not happy with it.
>>     
>
> As I said, it's pointless to add something like this if, realistically,
> it will never be used.
>
> So, taking the example of '-drive class=foo' ... a user who runs qemu
> directly would have to know that when she updates from qemu-0.10.x to
> qemu-0.11.x, she needs to use '-drive class=384' for ever more. I find
> it hard to believe anyone will ever do that.
>   
'She' is not a user, she is a developer.
Users use management tools like libvirt below.
Running qemu directly is complicated and error prone for
manual/human users.
I just wanted to stress this out, more feedback in the next email.
> Perhaps management tools can hide this complexity? In order to do this
> in libvirt, we'd need to do the following:
>   

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-31 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-22 17:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Change virtio-console to PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_OTHER Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-24  9:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-27 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-27 17:42   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-27 22:37     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28  9:33       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-28  9:44         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28 12:53     ` Paul Brook
2009-05-28 12:56       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28 13:22         ` Paul Brook
2009-05-28 13:29           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-28 21:45             ` Dor Laor
2009-05-29  9:43               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-29  9:50                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-31 14:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-29  9:55                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-29 10:09                 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-31 14:47                   ` Dor Laor
2009-06-02  8:49                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-02 13:08                       ` Dor Laor
2009-06-02 13:39                         ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-31 14:35                 ` Dor Laor [this message]
2009-06-02  8:49                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-05-28 13:04       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-05-28 13:19         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-31 18:48           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-28 13:20         ` Paul Brook

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