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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Chris Frey <cdfrey@foursquare.net>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Killing KQEMU
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 07:18:14 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A24A806.4060609@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090602035217.GA16574@foursquare.net>

Chris Frey wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I feel that I should post here, for the simple reason that most QEMU
> users likely don't read this list, and have no idea that developers are
> striving to kill off a valued feature.
>
> This is a very valuable feature to me, as one of those users, and I find
> it sad to read the eagerness some have at getting rid of it.  Not everyone
> has access to the most modern hardware.  And not all hardware is worth
> throwing out just because it doesn't have a CPU capable of virtualization.
>
> I read excuses such as "it's not documented" and "nobody understands it"
> and "there's no maintainer", but in a project such as QEMU, that is nearly
> 500,000 lines of code, the KQEMU kernel module clocks in, for linux,
> at a whopping 674 lines.
>
> I find it hard to believe that these 674 lines of code are too much for
> the substantial braintrust available on this list.
>   

kqemu is a lot larger than 674 lines; what you're looking at is probably 
the glue module from the pre-GPL days that loads into the kernel and 
links into the real kqemu which was supplied as  a binary.

> Wasn't KQEMU written in the first place to be small, auditable, and
> secure?  

kqemu is not small, not auditable, and not secure.

> What has changed that it is now such a burden?
>   

Fabrice left.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-02  4:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-02  3:52 [Qemu-devel] Killing KQEMU Chris Frey
2009-06-02  4:18 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-06-02  6:28   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02 19:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Frey
2009-06-02  4:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Rick Vernam
2009-06-02 12:54   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-02 20:09     ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Frey
2009-06-02 20:24       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-03 21:50         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Frey
2009-06-04  6:30           ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-02 20:30       ` Paul Brook
2009-06-03 21:34         ` Chris Frey
2009-06-03 21:46           ` Rick Vernam
2009-06-06 11:01         ` Andreas Färber
2009-06-06 11:27           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-06 13:50             ` Andreas Färber
2009-06-06 15:24               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-06 16:03               ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-02 20:35       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-02 20:47       ` Stuart Brady
2009-06-03 21:21         ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Frey
2009-06-04  0:22           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-02  6:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gleb Natapov
2009-06-02  9:26 ` Anton D Kachalov
2009-06-02 19:47   ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Frey

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