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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Blue Swirl" <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	"Andreas Färber" <andreas.faerber@web.de>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: POLL: Why do you use kqemu?
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:35:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2B6DD8.3090104@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A2B49C0.8020703@redhat.com>

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Avi Kivity wrote:
> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> Maybe the backwards compatibility features should be ported to QEMU?
>>> For example, is there a workaround for
>>> #error Missing KVM capability KVM_CAP_DESTROY_MEMORY_REGION_WORKS
>>> ?
>>>     
>>
>> Given that we have always-up-to-date kvm-kmod packages with support down
>> to reasonable kernel versions, I would prefer to keep upstream clean
>> from old workarounds. They should only be needed for issues found very
>> recently (KVM_CAP_JOIN_MEMORY_REGIONS_WORKS) or that might be found in
>> the future.
>>   
> 
> Requiring the latest up-to-date modules is pushing the problem to the
> users.  Sometimes there is no choice, but when there is, the
> implementation that cares about its uses prefer unclean code and
> functionality over perfection and brokenness.

Let's make it more concrete:

By the time upstream is as well tested, feature-rich and with comparable
performance as qemu-kvm, its current baseline requirement (2.6.29 due to
KVM_CAP_DESTROY_MEMORY_REGION_WORKS) will no longer be a problem to most
normal users. Until then they are better off with qemu-kvm anyway.

So all I wanted to express is that I see no point in merging workarounds
upstream that hardly anyone will need but that restrict non-kvm code in
upstream. Basically I have the current line along
KVM_CAP_DESTROY_MEMORY_REGION_WORKS / clean memory slot management in
mind. Anything older should be skipped when merging upstream. And unless
something more problematic comes along (rather unlikely), 2.6.29 or
compatible kvm-kmod is a reasonable minimum requirement for the long term.

Jan


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-07  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-03 21:57 [Qemu-devel] POLL: Why do you use kqemu? Anthony Liguori
2009-06-04 16:55 ` Anton D Kachalov
2009-06-05  0:44   ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-06-05  7:45     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05  8:40       ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-06-05  9:08         ` Anton D Kachalov
2009-06-05  9:15         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05 20:14   ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-06-05 23:23     ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-06-08  0:13       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-08  5:59         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 11:57           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-08 12:03             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 12:16               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-08 12:28                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 12:44                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 13:06                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 13:18                       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 13:24                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 13:44                           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 14:03                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 12:36               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 18:25       ` [Qemu-devel] " Lennart Sorensen
2009-06-06 13:27 ` Andreas Färber
2009-06-06 16:02   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-06 16:29     ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-06 17:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-06 17:25         ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-06 17:32           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-06 19:15             ` Andreas Färber
2009-06-07  5:43               ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07  5:01         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07  7:35           ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-06-07  7:46             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07  8:33             ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07  8:50               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07  9:01                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07  9:25                   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07  9:37                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07  9:47                       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07  9:52                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07  9:56                           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 10:06                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 11:13                     ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 11:23                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-07 11:26                         ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 11:29                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-07 11:39                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 12:40                             ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 12:43                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 12:52                                 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-07 12:56                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 13:18                                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 13:35                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 13:35                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 18:37                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-07 18:40                                       ` Blue Swirl

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