From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Anton D Kachalov <mouse@mayc.ru>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: POLL: Why do you use kqemu?
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:44:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A2D07A3.8090101@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A2D03E7.8070702@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Jamie Lokier wrote:
>> Is there a reason to duplicate QEMU's task switch emulation, instead
>> of trapping out to QEMU? Modern OSes don't use x86 task switching
>> (because it's slow on real CPUs) except for ring stack switches, so
>> it's hardly a performance requirement. Accurate task switch support
>> is fiddly to get right. Think of all the exceptions including
>> paging/segment exceptions in the middle of reading the TSS block.
>>
>
> kvm is designed to be useful without full emulation in userspace.
>
And the fact that kqemu has to use tcg in order to achieve a reasonable
performance is rather a disadvantage. The complexity and overhead for
synchronizing tcg with the in-kernel accelerator is enormous. If there
were a feasible way to overcome this with kqemu, it would benefit a lot.
But unfortunately there is none (given you don't want to invest
reasonable efforts).
Jan
--
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-08 12:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-03 21:57 [Qemu-devel] POLL: Why do you use kqemu? Anthony Liguori
2009-06-04 16:55 ` Anton D Kachalov
2009-06-05 0:44 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-06-05 7:45 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05 8:40 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-06-05 9:08 ` Anton D Kachalov
2009-06-05 9:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-05 20:14 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-06-05 23:23 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-06-08 0:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-08 5:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 11:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-08 12:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 12:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-08 12:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 12:44 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-06-08 13:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 13:18 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 13:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 13:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-08 12:36 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-08 18:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Lennart Sorensen
2009-06-06 13:27 ` Andreas Färber
2009-06-06 16:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-06 16:29 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-06 17:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-06 17:25 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-06 17:32 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-06 19:15 ` Andreas Färber
2009-06-07 5:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 5:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 7:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 7:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 8:33 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 8:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 9:01 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 9:25 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 9:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 9:47 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 9:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 9:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 10:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 11:13 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 11:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-07 11:26 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 11:29 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-07 11:39 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 12:40 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 12:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 12:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-07 12:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 13:18 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-07 13:35 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-07 13:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-07 18:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-07 18:40 ` Blue Swirl
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