From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGC6O-0004NP-VR for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:19:56 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MGC6K-0004LY-Fz for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:19:56 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=47934 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MGC6K-0004LO-6D for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:19:52 -0400 Received: from mx2.redhat.com ([66.187.237.31]:51192) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MGC6J-0002gr-Ml for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 15 Jun 2009 09:19:51 -0400 Message-ID: <4A3649EF.5060508@redhat.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 15:17:35 +0200 From: Gerd Hoffmann MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities] References: <20090610150129.GC28601@redhat.com> <200906101624.30659.paul@codesourcery.com> <20090610174301.GC7416@shareable.org> <20090610182227.GN28601@redhat.com> <20090610192702.GH7416@shareable.org> <1244796209.16425.20.camel@blaa> <4A326B5C.5010501@codemonkey.ws> <1244821292.30522.56.camel@blaa> <4A327E4A.7010300@codemonkey.ws> <1244825303.26769.19.camel@blaa> <20090614095016.GA7560@redhat.com> <4A3617D4.5090405@redhat.com> <4A36424D.3080901@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: <4A36424D.3080901@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Carsten Otte , Rusty Russell , kvm@vger.kernel.org, Mark McLoughlin , Glauber Costa , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, Blue Swirl , Christian Borntraeger , Avi Kivity , Paul Brook Hi, >> Yes, the user build the machine using the command line and monitor >> (or, in 2017, the machine configuration file), > > Considering pbrook just posted a machine config for arm, I think it > would be rather sad if pc wasn't converted to it by 2017... It shouldn't last until 2017, but the process isn't that trivial. Some qemu code / control flow needs serious restruction until it is in a state that creating the devices from a fdt can actually work. > Drivers don't have indexes and buses but we specify it on the -drive > line. -drive is convenient syntax. It stops being convenient when you > force it to be two options. One more issue: -drive also mixes host and guest configuration. These must be separated too. cheers, Gerd