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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities]
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:35:46 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A364E32.4010808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A364A9B.9070001@codemonkey.ws>

On 06/15/2009 04:20 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>>>> then turns on the power.  Command line options are the parts lying 
>>>> around when we start.
>>>>
>>>> btw, -drive needs to be separated:
>>>>
>>>>   -controller type=lsi1234,pci_addr=foobar,name=blah
>>>>   -drive file=foo.img,controller=blah,index=0
>>>>   -drive file=bar.img,controller=blah,index=1
>>>>
>>>> Drives to not have pci addresses.
>>>
>>> Drivers don't have indexes and buses but we specify it on the -drive 
>>> line. 
>>
>> Drives do have indexes.  On old parallel scsi drives you set the 
>> index by clicking a button on the back of the drive to cycle through 
>> scsi addresses 0-7.  An IDE drive's index is determined by the cable 
>> (master/slave).  A SATA drive's index is determined by which header 
>> on the motherboard the drive connects to.
>
>
> It's not at all that simple.   SCSI has a hierarchical address 
> mechanism with 0-7 targets but then potentially multiple LUNs per 
> target.  Today, we always emulate a single LUN per target but if we 
> ever wanted to support more than 7 disks on a SCSI controller, we 
> would have to add multiple LUN support too.  So the current linear 
> unit= parameter is actually pretty broken for SCSI.

Well, another level in the hierarchy, but I don't think it materially 
changes things.

>
> For IDE, it's a combination of bus, slot, and master/slave.  For 
> virtio, it's just a PCI address.  What we really need is something 
> that is more opaque and controller specific. 

virtio also has a bus (did you mean the pci bus for IDE?), master/slave 
is the index.  virtio doesn't have index, but IMO that was a mistake and 
we should have designed it as a disk controller in the first place.

> For instance, if we were going to do controllers...
>
> -controller type=lsi1234,pci_addr=foobar,name=blah
> -controller-disk controller=blah,target=0,lun=1,name=sda
>
> -controller type=ide,pci_addr=barfoo,name=ide
> -controller-disk controller=ide,slot=secondary,cable=slave,name=hdd
>
> -drive file=foo.img,controller-disk=sda
> -drive file=bar.img,controller-disk=hdd
>
> And having "-hdd file=foo.img" be short-hand for "-drive 
> file=%s,controller-disk=%s".

Yeah.

>>
>>
>> If by bus you mean the if= parameter, then drives certainly do have 
>> buses.  Just try connecting the scsi drive from the previous 
>> paragraph to a USB port.
>
> No, I meant drive file=foo.img,bus=3.  If that doesn't seem obvious 
> what it should do to you that's because it isn't at all obvious :-)  
> It ends up skipping a predefined number of locations in the drive 
> table.  This is pretty broken fundamentally because it assumes 
> controllers always support a fixed number of devices.  Nothing really 
> respects bus_id though so in practice, I assume it's almost 
> universally broken.

Isn't the drive table something totally internal?  And how does bus= 
relate to it?

Confused.


-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-15 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 184+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-06-05 10:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 01/13] qemu: make default_write_config use mask table Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 02/13] qemu: capability bits in pci save/restore Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-09 17:11   ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10  9:54     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 14:55       ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10 15:01         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 15:24           ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 15:50             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 17:43             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-10 18:22               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 19:27                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-12  8:43                   ` Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities] Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 13:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-12 14:48                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 14:51                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-12 15:41                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 16:11                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-12 16:48                           ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 17:00                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-12 17:31                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 17:44                                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-12 17:55                                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-16 18:38                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14  9:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15  9:08                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-15  9:27                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 10:32                                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 10:44                                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-15 10:46                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 10:52                                         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-15 11:07                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 11:14                                             ` Gleb Natapov
2009-06-15 11:34                                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 11:27                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 11:48                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 11:56                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 12:41                                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 12:50                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 12:52                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:09                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 13:23                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:42                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 13:51                                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 14:06                                                         ` Dor Laor
2009-06-15 14:24                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 14:37                                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 15:03                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 15:08                                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-15 15:12                                                                   ` Dor Laor
2009-06-15 15:15                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-16 18:32                                                                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-17  6:38                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-17 11:51                                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-15 16:27                                                                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-15 17:13                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 15:05                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 15:11                                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 16:27                                                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-15 17:09                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 18:12                                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 18:21                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 18:24                                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 18:44                                                                     ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-16  8:56                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-16 12:14                                                                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-16 12:28                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-16 12:39                                                                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-16 12:51                                                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-16 18:44                                                                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-17  8:33                                                                           ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-17  9:03                                                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-17  9:18                                                                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-17  9:26                                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-17 11:58                                                                                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24  8:04                                                                       ` Dietmar Maurer
2009-07-07 11:08                                                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] Change virtio blk/console PCI classes and introduce compat machine type [was Re: Configuration vs. compat hints] Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-07 11:09                                                                     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] Change default PCI class of virtio-blk to PCI_CLASS_STORAGE_SCSI Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-07 11:09                                                                       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Change default PCI class of virtio-console to PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_OTHER Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-07 11:10                                                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] Add a pc-0-10 machine type for compatibility with 0.10.x Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-07 12:01                                                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-08 10:46                                                                             ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-08 10:48                                                                               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3 v2] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-08 13:00                                                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-08 13:44                                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 14:09                                                                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-08 15:08                                                                                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-08 19:07                                                                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-08 21:45                                                                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09  7:56                                                                                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-09  8:39                                                                                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-09  8:50                                                                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-09  8:57                                                                                                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-09  9:04                                                                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-09  9:05                                                                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-09 10:01                                                                                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-09 13:31                                                                                                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-09 13:47                                                                                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-09 13:35                                                                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 13:55                                                                                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-09 16:09                                                                                                       ` Paul Brook
2009-07-09 11:51                                                                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-09 13:29                                                                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 13:59                                                                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-09 15:00                                                                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-21 14:21                                                                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Add pc-0.11 machine type and make pc an alias to it Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-21 14:21                                                                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Remove the pc-0-10 machine type Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-21 14:49                                                                                                   ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-22  2:14                                                                                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-22  8:56                                                                                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-22  9:05                                                                                                         ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-22  9:02                                                                                                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-22  9:02                                                                                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Add machine type aliases Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-22  9:02                                                                                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Add a pc-0.11 machine type and make the pc type an alias Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-23 13:34                                                                                                           ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-21 14:21                                                                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Remove the virtio-{blk, console}-pci-0-10 device types Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-21 14:21                                                                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Add machine type aliases Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-21 14:21                                                                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Add a pc-0.11 machine type and make the pc type an alias Mark McLoughlin
2009-07-09  8:00                                                                                             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3 v2] Add a pc-0-10 machine type for compatibility with 0.10.x Avi Kivity
2009-07-15 11:27                                                                         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] Change default PCI class of virtio-console to PCI_CLASS_SERIAL_OTHER Amit Shah
2009-06-15 11:35                                   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Configuration vs. compat hints Markus Armbruster
2009-06-15 11:43                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 11:59                                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-15 12:41                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-15 12:50                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 14:23                                       ` Javier Guerra
2009-06-15 12:41                                   ` Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities] Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 12:55                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 13:04                                     ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Configuration vs. compat hints Markus Armbruster
2009-06-15  9:43                               ` Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities] Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 10:29                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 12:45                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:03                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 13:20                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:35                                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-06-15 13:45                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:54                                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 15:07                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 15:11                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 15:20                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 15:26                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 13:17                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-14  7:55                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-12 14:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-12 15:53                       ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-12 16:12                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-12 16:48                           ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-14  7:58                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15  5:32                               ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Configuration vs. compat hints Markus Armbruster
2009-06-15  9:09                               ` Configuration vs. compat hints [was Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 03/13] qemu: add routines to manage PCI capabilities] Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-15 11:32                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 12:48                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:12                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 13:24                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 13:43                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15 14:00                                     ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-15 14:20                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-15 14:34                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15 15:11                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-14  9:34                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-14  9:37                           ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-14  9:47                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-15  9:38                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-15  9:02                           ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 04/13] qemu: helper routines for pci access Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 05/13] qemu: MSI-X support functions Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-09 17:26   ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10  9:58     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 06/13] qemu: add flag to disable MSI-X by default Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 07/13] qemu: minimal MSI/MSI-X implementation for PC Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-09 17:33   ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10  9:59     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 08/13] qemu: add support for resizing regions Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-09 17:36   ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10 10:05     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 10:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 09/13] qemu: virtio support for many interrupt vectors Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 10/13] qemu: MSI-X support in virtio PCI Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 11/13] qemu: request 3 vectors in virtio-net Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 12/13] qemu: virtio save/load bindings Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-09 17:45   ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10 10:11     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-10 11:33     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-06-05 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 13/13] qemu: add pci_get/set_byte Michael S. Tsirkin

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