From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "ehabkost@redhat.com" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
"jan.kiszka@siemens.com" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"dlaor@redhat.com" <dlaor@redhat.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
Filip Navara <filip.navara@gmail.com>,
Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] QMP: Introduce specification file
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:10:21 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A43935D.6000506@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A438FDD.5060206@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 06/25/2009 04:07 PM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
>>> Looks to me like "works with libvirt and other management programs"
>>> implies that you can use it from scripts, because many management
>>> programs are, in fact, scripts.
>>>
>>
>> Having the possibility of using it from scripts would be nice but I
>> wouldn't make it a requirement.
>> With an rpc interface and the right scripting language you can still use
>> the rpc interface from a very very short script.
>>
>
> I'd go further and make shell script support a non-goal. Maybe the
> majority of qemu control programs are scripts, but only a tiny
> minority of VMs are controlled by shell scripts. It is nearly
> impossible to write a correct nontrivial program in bash; and scripts
> will be slow due to the need to constantly fork/exec/connect.
>
> Serious management programs will be written in real languages, and
> that's what we should optimize for.
I'm still inclined to stick with the text-based protocol. libvirt likes
it. If Serious Management Programs want an RPC interface they can use
libvirt.
An RPC is overkill unless you also introduce things like life cycle
management. Otherwise, you could never realistically interact with QEMU
without a intermediary that handled life cycle management (e.g. libvirt).
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-25 15:10 UTC|newest]
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2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/11] QMP: Introduce specification file Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:57 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:22 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:06 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 17:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:15 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:20 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 15:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 18:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 18:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 19:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 19:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 20:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 20:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 22:02 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 22:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 1:01 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 11:55 ` James
2009-06-24 12:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 12:32 ` James
2009-06-24 12:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 14:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 12:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-24 13:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-24 13:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 18:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 17:39 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 18:42 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 18:55 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 18:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 13:34 ` Ian Jackson
2009-06-24 16:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 14:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-25 19:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-24 14:06 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-24 14:56 ` Chris Webb
2009-06-24 19:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 15:57 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 16:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-24 16:42 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 19:05 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 19:24 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-24 21:29 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-24 21:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 13:07 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 15:10 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-06-25 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 17:04 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-25 18:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 19:03 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 9:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:41 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-25 18:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 18:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-25 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 9:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 13:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 15:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 17:36 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 19:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-26 20:25 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 13:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 10:09 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-27 7:03 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 12:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-28 17:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 0:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-29 6:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 9:48 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 20:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 5:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 13:51 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-30 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 13:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-30 14:03 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-30 16:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-30 18:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-01 8:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-29 14:41 ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-06-29 14:56 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:38 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-26 11:36 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-24 16:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-23 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:59 ` Vincent Hanquez
2009-06-23 15:41 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/11] QMP: Introduce MONITOR_USE_CONTROL flag Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/11] QMP: Introduce protocol print functions Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 13:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 4:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/11] QMP: Make monitor_handle_command() QMP aware Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 17:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/11] QMP: Introduce control mode chardev handling Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/11] QMP: Introduce asynchronous events infrastructure Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:46 ` Paul Brook
2009-06-23 10:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 13:48 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-06-23 13:51 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 16:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/11] QMP: Enable simple commands Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/11] QMP: Port balloon command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 16:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 16:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 18:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-25 11:27 ` Dor Laor
2009-06-25 19:11 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-26 9:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-26 9:42 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-26 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-27 15:58 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-28 15:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 16:30 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 17:23 ` Filip Navara
2009-06-28 17:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 17:51 ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-28 18:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-28 22:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/11] QMP: Port 'info blockstats' command Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 9:59 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:10 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 14:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 4:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/11] QMP: Introduce basic events Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 17:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 4:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/11] QMP: Command-line flag to enable control mode Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 9:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 10:11 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 10:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 10:54 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:44 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 11:51 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:39 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 12:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 12:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 11:54 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-23 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-06-23 11:13 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 13:59 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-06-23 14:06 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-23 17:27 ` Luiz Capitulino
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