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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/4] Machine config files
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 07:56:04 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A52D564.6070600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A523444.30002@codemonkey.ws>

On 07/06/2009 08:28 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>
>>> That alone will *not* provide the position in the device tree 
>>> though.  And I suspect making the transition without breaking 
>>> backward compatibility could be quite tricky too.  So I'm not sure 
>>> how useful that actually is, although it surely would be much 
>>> cleaner from a design point of view.
>>
>> I think we need to break the format.  It's semi-broken anyway wrt 
>> hotplug and the use of ram addresses.  It may be possible to add 
>> transition code but I don't think it's worth it.
>
> The format is fine.  ram v3 uses ram_addr_t because it's was the only 
> sane thing to do at the time.  v4 could easily use target_phys_t.

IMO the flat format currently used is fragile wrt. hotplug, as is the 
requirement to start qemu with exactly the same parameters.  If we 
serialize the state from the current qdev configuration we don't depend 
on any implementation ordering.

> Most importantly, machine config should not be sent until non-live 
> migration kicks in.  At this point, the device tree is stable because 
> the guest isn't running.  The device tree should be the first section 
> saved for non-live migration.

Memory layout depends on the machine configuration.  RAM, hotplug RAM, 
and framebuffers.  It would get worse if more components migrate live 
(disks?).

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-07  4:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-10 17:38 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Machine config files Paul Brook
2009-06-10 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Include and build libfdt Paul Brook
2009-06-10 19:08   ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10 19:23     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-10 19:27     ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 19:41       ` Glauber Costa
2009-06-10 20:38         ` Paul Brook
2009-06-10 22:32       ` Edgar E. Iglesias
2009-06-10 19:34     ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-10 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add device tree machine Paul Brook
2009-06-10 18:30   ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-10 19:10     ` Paul Brook
2009-06-11 13:22   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-11 13:33   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-11 13:39     ` Paul Brook
2009-06-11 14:22       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-12 16:25   ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-10 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Stellaris machine config Paul Brook
2009-06-11  8:21   ` M P
2009-06-11 16:32     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-12  8:29       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-12 13:56         ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-12 13:53       ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-12 15:25         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-10 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Integrator " Paul Brook
2009-06-11  9:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] Machine config files Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-11 12:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-11 13:18   ` Paul Brook
2009-06-11 14:35     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-12  7:51     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-06-12 13:49       ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-12 14:22         ` Kevin Wolf
2009-06-12 14:40           ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-12 15:02           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-06-12 15:29             ` Kevin Wolf
2009-06-12 16:35             ` Blue Swirl
2009-06-12 13:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-12 14:44   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-06-12 15:58     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-06-12 16:11     ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-07-06 12:49       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-06 13:43         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-06 13:56           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-06 14:01             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-06 14:40               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-06 16:12                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-06 16:27                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-06 16:37                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-06 16:44                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-07  4:47                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-06 16:47                       ` Paul Brook
2009-07-07  5:01                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-06 17:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-06 22:39                         ` Paul Brook
2009-07-06 23:13                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-07  5:00                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-07  5:23                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-07  4:56                         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-07-07  6:19                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-07-06 14:24             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-06 14:31               ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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