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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Ryan Harper <ryanh@us.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH][RESEND] Add monitor command for system_reboot
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:49:38 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A54C012.2080003@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090708154349.GT11590@us.ibm.com>

Ryan Harper wrote:
>> That suffers from the same problem as a system_reboot command in that
>> the guest may never start the shutdown. If that's an acceptable 
>> limitation, then we might as well implement it directly in QEMU as
>> system_reboot so its easily available to everyone. Make 'system_reboot'
>> take an optional timeout arg (default to 60 seconds) after which it
>> cancels its plans. 
>>     
>
> This seems the most reasonable thing to me.  As already mentioned,
> system_powerdown already is non-deterministic since the guest could
> ignore the ACPI event.
>   

It's a different class of non-determinism though.  With 
system_powerdown, you make a request to the guest.  You don't know 
whether the guest will comply with the request.  The same level of 
non-determinism exists with ballooning.

With system_reboot, you're taking an action (system_reset) and what's 
not deterministic is whether you're taking that action based on what 
someone requested on the monitor (system_reboot) verses whether you're 
taking that action based on something the user did (shutdown).  In the 
later case, you're action is functionally incorrect.

-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-08 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-07 19:26 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH][RESEND] Add monitor command for system_reboot Ryan Harper
2009-07-08  5:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-08 13:07   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 13:11     ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-08 13:16       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 13:28         ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-08  7:56 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-08 13:05   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 13:26     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-08 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 13:56         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-08 13:59           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 15:43           ` Ryan Harper
2009-07-08 15:49             ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-07-08 15:58               ` Ryan Harper
2009-07-08 16:02                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-08 16:02             ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-16  8:58               ` Amit Shah
2009-07-16 14:39                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-16 14:49                   ` Amit Shah
2009-07-08 13:49     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-08 14:04     ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-08 14:10       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-08 15:16         ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-08 15:47           ` Stefano Stabellini
2009-07-08 15:54             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-08 15:59               ` Stefano Stabellini

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