From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] move vm stop/start to migrate_set_state
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 17:22:36 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A59F1AC.9070401@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A5958F8.3090306@codemonkey.ws>
On 07/12/2009 06:31 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Jamie Lokier wrote:
>> If you get an error during the last write(), I wouldn't trust that to
>> mean the recipient will definitely not see the data you wrote. (Enjoy
>> the double negative). It's another variation of the handshake
>> uncertainty, this time reflected in what write() should report when
>> it's uncertain about a network transmission. If it reports an error
>> when it's uncertain, then you can't trust that a write() error means
>> the data was not written, only that a problem was detected.
>
> I think you're stretching here. If it really were the case that
> write() could actually result in data being sent out the wire and yet
> still returning an error, it would make all error handling in Unix
> unmanagable. I can't believe this is possible in Linux and without an
> actual counter-example, I'm inclined to believe the same is true for
> every other OS out there.
It's actually a common scenario for block devices. I don't know about
networking, but for disks a write can be completed and then report an
error if the cable or power was disconnected before the acknowledge
could arrive.
It could conceivably happen with networking if the device reports an
error when it isn't sure if the data was sent out or not (but it
actually was), or if some path after the transmission required a memory
allocation, which failed.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-07-12 14:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-09 11:47 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] add "core dump"-like capability Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 11:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] move state and mon_resume to struct MigrationState Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 11:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] move vm stop/start to migrate_set_state Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 13:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 13:48 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 13:58 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 14:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-10 23:14 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-11 0:04 ` malc
2009-07-11 0:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-11 0:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-11 0:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-11 1:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-12 3:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-12 14:22 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-07-12 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-12 19:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-13 5:31 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 8:05 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-07-13 14:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-14 8:48 ` Dor Laor
2009-07-14 14:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 11:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] add live dumping capability Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 14:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-10 8:32 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-10 12:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] add "core dump"-like capability Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 13:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-07-09 13:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-09 14:46 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-07-09 16:20 ` Paolo Bonzini
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