From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 11:59:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A8051F3.7040400@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A803E07.7080407@redhat.com>
Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> Ok, lets rip out the in-kernel ioapic code then. It can (and has
> been) done in userspace.
The justification is performance although that's not really true anymore
post TPR optimization.
But FWIW, I opposed both the in-kernel apic and the in-kernel pit when
they were introduced. If nothing else, I'm at least consistent :-)
> The daemon increases the possibility of userspace bugs.
How?
> Seriously: Attaching a name tag to virtio-serial devices and have
> them exposed via sysfs is probably *much* less code than a vmchannel
> daemon.
I strongly doubt that.
>> If we really want
>> vmchannel to be used by application developers, then we really need a
>> libvmchannel.
>
> We need a sane solution developed and merged and not a new idea each
> week.
There is nothing sane about vmchannel. It's just an attempt to bypass
QEMU which is going to introduce all sorts of complexities wrt
migration, guest compatibility, etc.
However, as I've mentioned repeatedly, the reason I won't merge
virtio-serial is that it duplicates functionality with virtio-console.
If the two are converged, I'm happy to merge it. I'm not opposed to
having more functionality.
I think it's the wrong solution for the use-case, and I always have, but
that's independent of my willingness to merge it.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-10 16:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-27 18:04 [Qemu-devel] virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] virtio-serial: virtio device for simple host <-> guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] vnc: add a is_vnc_active() helper Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio-serial: vnc: support for sending / receiving guest clipboard Amit Shah
2009-08-05 0:03 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Rusty Russell
2009-08-05 5:12 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 9:58 ` Amit Shah
2009-07-27 20:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-27 20:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 23:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 10:36 ` Amit Shah
[not found] ` <4A6F0048.1000103@codemonkey.ws>
2009-07-29 7:44 ` Amit Shah
2009-07-29 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-08-05 18:00 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20090728140029.GA16067@amd.home.annexia.org>
2009-07-28 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 14:55 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-07-28 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-03 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-05 17:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-05 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 10:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 14:04 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 17:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-07 6:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-07 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 6:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-10 9:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 13:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-08-10 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-12 18:27 ` Paul Brook
2009-08-14 8:15 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-14 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 13:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-08-20 14:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-14 16:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-20 7:31 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-20 7:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-20 7:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 17:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-25 12:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-25 13:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 23:09 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-11 0:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-06 10:35 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 18:32 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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