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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest	communication
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:27:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A805867.503@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A8051F3.7040400@codemonkey.ws>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
> There is nothing sane about vmchannel.  It's just an attempt to bypass 
> QEMU which is going to introduce all sorts of complexities wrt 
> migration, guest compatibility, etc.
>
> However, as I've mentioned repeatedly, the reason I won't merge 
> virtio-serial is that it duplicates functionality with 
> virtio-console.  If the two are converged, I'm happy to merge it.  I'm 
> not opposed to having more functionality.

NB: the userspace interface for these devices should be a tty, not a new 
character device.

If you want to add a new bustype for these devices, and then have an 
entry in sysfs that had some sort of identification string, that's 
perfectly acceptable.

Also note though that this is exactly what usb-serial is today.  
/sys/bus/usbserial contains all the usb serial devices and you can get a 
vendor id/device id to uniquely identify the device type.

Using virtio vs. usb has it's advantage but the userspace interface 
model should be roughly equivalent.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-10 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-27 18:04 [Qemu-devel] virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] virtio-serial: virtio device for simple host <-> guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] vnc: add a is_vnc_active() helper Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio-serial: vnc: support for sending / receiving guest clipboard Amit Shah
2009-08-05  0:03   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Rusty Russell
2009-08-05  5:12     ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05  9:58     ` Amit Shah
2009-07-27 20:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:32   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-27 20:37     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:46     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 23:44       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 10:36         ` Amit Shah
     [not found]           ` <4A6F0048.1000103@codemonkey.ws>
2009-07-29  7:44             ` Amit Shah
2009-07-29  7:48               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-08-05 18:00                 ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]         ` <20090728140029.GA16067@amd.home.annexia.org>
2009-07-28 14:48           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 14:55             ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-07-28 15:00               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-03 19:57           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-05 17:57             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-05 18:00               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 10:38                 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:29                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 13:41                     ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:58                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 14:04                         ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 17:37                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-07  6:38                             ` Amit Shah
2009-08-07 14:14                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10  6:55                                 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-10  9:47                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 13:02                                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:02                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:34                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 16:59                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 17:27                                               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-08-12 18:27                                               ` Paul Brook
2009-08-14  8:15                                               ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:29                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-14 13:41                                                   ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 13:42                                                   ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:25                                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-08-20 14:38                                                       ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:42                                                         ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:49                                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-14 16:25                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-20  7:31                                                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-20  7:44                                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-20  7:55                                                         ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 17:10                                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-25 12:43                                                         ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-25 13:00                                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 23:09                                     ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-11  0:16                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:27                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:57                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-06 10:35               ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 18:32             ` Richard W.M. Jones

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