From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:16:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A80B870.9080907@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200908110839.28901.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 07:17:54 pm Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>
>> On 08/10/09 08:55, Amit Shah wrote:
>>
>>>> Bad example. Quite a lot of modern devices drivers are using dynamic
>>>> major/minor numbers because they have proven to be such a pain in the
>>>> butt. That's why we have more sophisticated mechanisms like udev for
>>>> userspace to make use of.
>>>>
>>> Let me explain how we came to this numbering: we first had support for
>>> 'naming' ports and the names were obtained by userspace programs by an
>>> ioctl. Rusty suggested to use some numbering scheme where some ports
>>> could exist at predefined locations so that we wouldn't need the naming
>>> and the ioctls around it.
>>>
>> I think the naming is very important.
>>
>
> I disagree. If you can hand out names, you can hand out numbers.
The problem with handing out names is that there has to be someone to
"hand" things out. And even if you have a good hander-outer,
development is difficult in a distributed environment because you may
have folks using your code before you've gotten an official hand-out.
A better discovery mechanism is based on something that piggy backs on
another authority. For instance, reverse fully qualified domains work
well. uuid's tend to work pretty well too although it's not perfect.
In general, even just open strings can work out okay given that people
are responsible in how they name things.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-11 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-27 18:04 [Qemu-devel] virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] virtio-serial: virtio device for simple host <-> guest communication Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] vnc: add a is_vnc_active() helper Amit Shah
2009-07-27 18:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] virtio-serial: vnc: support for sending / receiving guest clipboard Amit Shah
2009-08-05 0:03 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio_serial: A char device for simple guest <-> host communication Rusty Russell
2009-08-05 5:12 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 9:58 ` Amit Shah
2009-07-27 20:22 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: virtio-serial: An interface for host-guest communication Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:32 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-07-27 20:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-27 20:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-07-27 23:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 10:36 ` Amit Shah
[not found] ` <4A6F0048.1000103@codemonkey.ws>
2009-07-29 7:44 ` Amit Shah
2009-07-29 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-08-05 18:00 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20090728140029.GA16067@amd.home.annexia.org>
2009-07-28 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-07-28 14:55 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-07-28 15:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-03 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-05 17:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-05 18:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 10:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 13:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-06 14:04 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-06 17:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-07 6:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-07 14:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 6:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-10 9:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 13:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 14:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-12 18:27 ` Paul Brook
2009-08-14 8:15 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-14 13:41 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 13:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-08-20 14:38 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 14:42 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-14 13:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-14 16:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-20 7:31 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-20 7:44 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-20 7:55 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-20 17:10 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-25 12:43 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-25 13:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-10 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 23:09 ` Rusty Russell
2009-08-11 0:16 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-08-10 14:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-08-10 15:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-08-06 10:35 ` Amit Shah
2009-08-05 18:32 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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