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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/2] port over extboot from kvm
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:15:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA6831F.6070501@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AA66FBC.5080502@redhat.com>

Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>>     -drive if=virtio,id=sys,file=/path/to/disk.img
>>>     -cdrom /path/to/install.iso
>>>     -boot order=[sys],once=d,menu=off
>> Yes, this looks powerful and clean. One could even still define probe
>> orders like "-boot order=[sys][backup]d".
> 
> Well, except that boot orders with two hard drives in there don't work 
> in the PC world ...

That depends on your bios. I've seen many that allow disk boot ordering,
though they may not support "[sys]d[backup]".

However, I see no technical reason for artificially restricting qemu
bios capabilities.

> 
>>>>    - This is just an implementation detail: Do we really need to implement
>>>>      booting from virtio and scsi via an extension rom? Isn't it possible
>>>>      to merge the corresponding support into the main bios?
>>> Well.  There are quite a few.  bochs pcbios, seabios, coreboot ...
>> Ok, but that's only an argument to have extboot as a workaround for
>> bioses not yet supporting scsi and virtio natively, isn't it? I'm
>> thinking long-term here, not arguing against a extboot-based short-term
>> solution.
> 
> I think it would be useful.  Adding a fw_cfg knob to signal 'please boot 
> via extboot protocol instead of ide disk' should be enougth to allow 
> bioses supporting extboot directly.  Additional plus is we can probably 
> code it in C not asm then.

I'm still not convinced we need extboot for all bioses on the long term.
And I think we should define new interfaces in a way that finally makes
it obsolete, at least for our "home bios" (whatever it will be).

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-08 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-08  9:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] port over extboot from kvm Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08  9:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] extboot: add option rom Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08  9:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] extboot: qemu code Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08 11:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] port over extboot from kvm Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08 13:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-09-08 14:22   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08 14:32     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-08 16:05       ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-08 17:21         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-08 19:11           ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-08 19:46             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-08 20:00               ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-08 20:10                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-12 15:03         ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-09-08 14:40     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-08 14:52       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08 16:15         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-09-08 17:12           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-08 19:03             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-08 19:39               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-12 15:43       ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-09-08 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-09 16:06   ` Paul Brook
2009-11-09 16:31     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-09 16:40       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11 13:01         ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-11 13:25           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-11 13:54             ` Paul Brook

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