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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	aliguori@us.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] re-set rtc date on reset handler
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:50:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AA68B50.8000805@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AA68310.1050209@siemens.com>

Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Blue Swirl wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 7:22 PM, Glauber Costa<glommer@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> guests without a stable timesource such as kvm-clock will grab the wallclock
>>> from our rtc chip. However, we only sync the date when we first launch qemu.
>>> If a guest goes through a series of reboot cycles, it will slowly see time
>>> getting far behind the host.
>>>
>>> The proposal of this patch is to set the date to host clock again in the reset
>>> handler. With this patch, I see a Fedora guest keeping its clock in sync upon
>>> an ulimited number of reboots.
>> A different approach is used in m48t59.c: the guest clock is generated
>> directly from host clock without any timers and only a fixed offset
>> (to account for time when guest was stopped) is added, so the clock
>> will always in sync.
> 
> Ah, that looks like a useful approach! We currently face the issue of
> vRTC drifting away from the host time (as the latter is tuned by NTP).
> 
> Do you or anyone else know if switching the PC RTC over to the scheme
> used in the m48t59 may have some downsides? If not, I would happily hack
> up a patch ASAP and suggest it for mainline.

Clearly, one downside is that a jumping host time will cause the RTC to
jump as well. However, there might by setups where this does not happen,
so optionally switching the RTC over rt_clock seems like a reasonable
feature to me.

What about consolidating -localtime, -starttime and -rtc-td-hack at this
chance? Something like

 -rtc base=utc|localtime|date,clock=vm|rt

with 'date' specifying the base as in -starttime. 'clock' would then
allow to drive the RTC via the host's CLOCK_REALTIME (with all its pros
and cons).

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-08 16:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-01 16:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] re-set rtc date on reset handler Glauber Costa
2009-09-01 16:56 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-01 23:00   ` Glauber Costa
2009-09-08 14:55     ` Dor Laor
2009-09-08 16:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-09-08 16:50     ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-09-08 17:00       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 12:28         ` Dor Laor
2009-09-09 12:57           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 13:27             ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-09 13:31               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:04                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-09 15:34                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 16:09                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-09 17:52                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 18:40                         ` Gleb Natapov
2009-09-09 18:50                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 18:25                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-09 18:33                       ` Anthony Liguori

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