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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@gmail.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>, Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/5] Refactor and enhance RTC configuration
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:54:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AAA1059.9060505@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090909222333.GA19385@shareable.org>

Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> Besides the interface thing, I'm also interesting in comments on the
>>> other core idea, the selectable RTC base clock. Do we want this knob? Do
>>> we want host_clock unconditionally? Or should the other RTC that
>>> currently use the host time already also gain vm_clock support over the
>>> time?
>>>  
>> Hard to say.  Doesn't the rtc keep track of wallclock time even on power 
>> off?  I think using host_clock unconditionally does actually make sense.
> 
> Sometimes it's useful to offset the emulated clock for one reason or
> another, hence the -startdate options.  But having it run at the
> correct speed is usually useful :-)

Indeed.

> 
> Also, sometimes (due to licenses with wallclock limits) it's useful
> for a guest to not see much time pass when the guest is powered off,
> although it still needs to be positive.

I'm not sure if this is a common use case. And it currently only seems
to be support by very few RTCs, the MC146818 being the most prominent one.

I'm now a fan of converting the latter to the common scheme of using the
host's system time (here via host_clock) and watch out for the need of
adding -rtc clock=vm.

> 
> Will the -startdate functionality be maintained with the RTC changes?

Yes, just like -localtime, this will still be supported of course.

Jan

-- 
Siemens AG, Corporate Technology, CT SE 2
Corporate Competence Center Embedded Linux

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-11  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-09 15:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] Refactor and enhance RTC configuration Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] win32: Drop dead dyntick timer code Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] Introduce QEMU_CLOCK_HOST Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] Enable host-clock-based RTC Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] Refactor RTC command line switches Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] Rename QEMU_TIMER_* to QEMU_CLOCK_* Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 15:40 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/5] Refactor and enhance RTC configuration Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 16:24   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 16:41     ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 18:03       ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-09 17:59     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 20:00       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 20:18         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-09 22:23       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-11  8:54         ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-09-13 15:08           ` Dor Laor
2009-09-13 15:37             ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-14 13:36               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-14 15:40                 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-09-09 17:59     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-09-10 10:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-09 17:33 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-09 19:13   ` Jan Kiszka

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