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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Amit Shah <amit.shah@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] virtio-console: Add a virtio-console bus, support for multiple ports
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 10:38:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC46A7A.6030809@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091001045439.GA18563@amit-x200.redhat.com>

   Hi,

>> Sure.  I think there is a misunderstanding here.  I meant only the
>> "buffer messages when unconnected" thing.  Reassembling the messages in
>> the core and forward only complete messages to the ports is fine.
>
> OK; so in that case, passing a ptr to the buffer and its length is fine,
> no?

Will work.  We need some clear rules for buffer memory though.  Possible 
ways to deal with it:

   (1) core owns the buffer.  If the port driver wants to keep the
       content it has to memcpy() it to own memory.
   (2) have_data() callback transfers buffer ownership from core to
       the port driver.  It is the port drivers job to free the memory
       when it doesn't need it any more.
   (3) reference-count the buffers.

For (1) + (2) both buffer struct and ptr+len will work.

For (3) ptr+len wouldn't work though, you'll need some struct containing 
ptr, len, refcount and helper functions to get/put buffers.

>> If you do '-device virtio-console-pci -device virtio-port' (i.e. no
>> console) and boot a old guest kernel which expects a (single) console
>> being there, what will happen?
>
> OK -- I get what you're saying now. However, I don't see any problem
> here. If there is no virtioconsole specified to qemu, there's no reason
> to expect a console in the guest. That was the case in the past and is
> the case now as well. The difference is earlier, when probe() in the
> guest was called, it definitely meant the existence of a console. Now,
> even if probe() is invoked, it doesn't mean a console was found. But
> this hardly is a concern.

True for new guest kernels, they simply don't create a hvc.
Question is what *old* guest kernels will do in that case.

cheers,
   Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-01  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-29 12:04 [Qemu-devel] virtio-console-bus, multiport, virtio-console-port Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] char: Emit 'OPENED' events on char device open Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] qdev: add string property Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] virtio-console: Add a virtio-console bus, support for multiple ports Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] virtio-console-port: Add a new device on the virtio-console-bus for generic host-guest communication Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] vnc: add a is_vnc_active() helper Amit Shah
2009-09-29 12:04           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] vnc: Add a virtio-console-bus device to send / receive guest clipboard Amit Shah
2009-09-29 18:13             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30  4:50               ` Amit Shah
2009-09-29 18:08         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] virtio-console-port: Add a new device on the virtio-console-bus for generic host-guest communication Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30  8:09           ` Nathan Baum
2009-09-29 18:04       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] virtio-console: Add a virtio-console bus, support for multiple ports Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30  4:47         ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30  8:59           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-30 15:55             ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 18:39               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01  4:54                 ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01  8:38                   ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2009-10-01  8:56                     ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 10:48                       ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 12:15                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07  9:25                           ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07  9:51                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 10:06                               ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 11:33                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 11:42                                   ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 13:06                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 13:53                                       ` Amit Shah
2009-10-07 14:03                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-07 14:00                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 21:13   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] char: Emit 'OPENED' events on char device open Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01  4:56     ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01  6:02       ` Amit Shah
2009-10-01 12:54       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 13:43         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-01 13:48           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 15:18             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-09-29 14:53 ` [Qemu-devel] virtio-console-bus, multiport, virtio-console-port Amit Shah

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