From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MuWrt-00004t-OR for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:35:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MuWro-0008V4-RQ for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:35:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45495 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MuWro-0008Uv-II for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:35:36 -0400 Received: from e7.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.137]:46292) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MuWrn-0008Ph-TC for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:35:36 -0400 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by e7.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n94JX044032382 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:33:00 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id n94JZZmt238646 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:35:35 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n94JWD3w000617 for ; Sun, 4 Oct 2009 15:32:14 -0400 Message-ID: <4AC8F903.5010408@us.ibm.com> Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:35:31 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0 References: <4AC4A487.1050003@us.ibm.com> <2a50f7880910020958g3fe5eadehe5e5094c05b218d9@mail.gmail.com> <4AC64A5C.6010003@gmx.net> <4AC64C32.4020509@codemonkey.ws> <4AC67326.6080603@gmx.net> <20091003150803.GF17326@redhat.com> <20091003173252.1061.qmail@stuge.se> <13426df10910031040y5029dc31m8c6ca4a4bac098a6@mail.gmail.com> <2a50f7880910031513u713f7d52xc95847e9b248964b@mail.gmail.com> <1254608347.12717.12.camel@tetris> <2a50f7880910031604y14c9dde1mc350d42d93ff1c9d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2a50f7880910031604y14c9dde1mc350d42d93ff1c9d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Jordan Justen Cc: Gleb Natapov , Coreboot , Carl-Daniel Hailfinger , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, ron minnich , Patrick Georgi Jordan Justen wrote: >> So you want QEmu as a marketing device - nothing wrong with saying that, >> right? >> > > I'm not in marketing. :) But, I do work for Intel, on tianocore.org > and thus UEFI. I've been working with Tiano/EFI since ~2003, when > Intel started converting its desktop motherboards over to a Tiano code > base. So yes, I have a bias. > > I think (but no, I cannot back this up) that tens of millions of UEFI > compatible motherboards are shipping out each year now. Microsoft has > implemented UEFI support in Vista and Win7. Several Linux vendor have > or are enabling UEFI support now. Mac OS X implements UEFI. > > My point? Well, while I think QEMU support for UEFI is still valuable > to help support UEFI adoption, I think it could have done a lot more > for UEFI if it was done several years ago. :) > Many major vendors (like IBM) are starting to ship (and will eventually exclusively ship) UEFI firmwares. Hardware, particularly the kind targeted at higher end systems, will eventually start to assume the presence of EFI. If we want to support PCI passthrough of these devices, then we'll have to support EFI in some form. -- Regards, Anthony Liguori