From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MunDc-0007y6-G1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:03:12 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MunDX-0007sq-JL for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:03:12 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45003 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MunDW-0007sT-Th for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:03:06 -0400 Received: from e5.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.145]:40222) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MunDW-0000Mv-C8 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:03:06 -0400 Received: from d01relay04.pok.ibm.com (d01relay04.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.236]) by e5.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id n95CreZ1012136 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:53:40 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay04.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id n95D34PR255612 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 09:03:04 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id n95CxfF1017190 for ; Mon, 5 Oct 2009 08:59:42 -0400 Message-ID: <4AC9EE84.1010803@us.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 05 Oct 2009 08:03:00 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [coreboot] [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0 References: <4AC51DBA.7020609@codemonkey.ws> <4AC60037.6000001@codemonkey.ws> <2a50f7880910020958g3fe5eadehe5e5094c05b218d9@mail.gmail.com> <4AC64A5C.6010003@gmx.net> <4AC64C32.4020509@codemonkey.ws> <4AC67326.6080603@gmx.net> <2a50f7880910021528v742c39e8sd334b318c577fb71@mail.gmail.com> <4AC6872E.6060103@gmx.net> <2a50f7880910021732k68ae1a97qc7307ac52a225371@mail.gmail.com> <20091003173006.595.qmail@stuge.se> <2a50f7880910031449k13090dcdr8440d89ccb7fcfe9@mail.gmail.com> <1254607096.12717.10.camel@tetris> <4AC8F80C.2050702@us.ibm.com> <4AC8F9F2.3030508@coresystems.de> In-Reply-To: <4AC8F9F2.3030508@coresystems.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Stefan Reinauer Cc: Coreboot , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger , ron minnich , Jordan Justen , Patrick Georgi Stefan Reinauer wrote: > Anthony Liguori wrote: > >> Patrick Georgi wrote: >> >>> With coreboot, seabios and Duet, it should be reasonably simple to >>> provide a single BIOS image that selects (based on nvram - ie. >>> configuration) which interface to provide: PCBIOS or UEFI. >>> >>> >> That isn't terribly useful for QEMU because it implies that QEMU needs >> to make the decision about which one to use. If QEMU was capable of >> making that decision without user intervention, then we could just >> select to load PCBIOS or UEFI. >> > Are you guys sure you want to go down that road rather than using an > UEFI with a CSM? We'll I've been advocating UEFI + CSM (based on SeaBIOS) so I'm not sure what you meant by 'that road'. > This was attempted for Open Firmware and never happened during its life > time. I doubt there is any incentive for vendors to ship devices without > legacy option roms, especially since there is no advantage in doing so. > We'll be stuck with legacy option roms for a long, long time. But I also expect there will be a few devices out there that only provide EFI modules. -- Regards, Anthony Liguori