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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@amd.com>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 9/9] Add -kvm option
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:58:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD319F6.70506@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ACD2414.9000401@codemonkey.ws>

On 10/08/09 01:28, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Glauber Costa wrote:
>> even if we have qdev on the irq controllers, one could still come up with
>> situations in which we'd like to force the use of one device over
>> another.
>
> Right, my assumption is that the devices will have different qdev names
> and therefore a user can select which one gets used.
>
> Right now, -device is just additive. I'm not sure the best way to
> express something like, replace this existing device with this new
> device. Maybe some trickery with id=. Gerd, any thoughts?

-M $machine gives you a barebone machine with all core devices which 
belong to it. You can't easily remove and/or replace devices. 
Especially not something central as the IRQ controller.  But also no 
other core components, i.e. you wouldn't stick a piix4 ide controller 
into a Q35 machine.  Just say 'no'.

That leaves two options:

   (1) create two devices, create new machines which use the kvm
       versions (aka -M pc-kvm).
   (2) make using the in-kernel kvm code a device property.

I think (2) is the way to go.  Especially with multiple devices having 
kvm support (apic, pit, more?) (1) becomes unmanageable.

Right now there is no way to set properties for devices *not* added via 
-device[1].  We'll need support for that anyway though (to set rtc 
properties for example), so we can have a apic.kvm property and switch 
between user/kernel implementions using it.

cheers,
   Gerd

[1] my idea for implementing that is extending the compat property
     mechanism.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-12 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-07 22:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Add in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/9] add base-addr field to io apic state Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/9] Save missing fields in VMState Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/9] provide apic_set_irq_delivered Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/9] provide in-kernel i8259 chip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize " Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 8/9] Initialize in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 9/9] Add -kvm option Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:00                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 23:14                     ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:58                         ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2009-10-12 14:04                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 15:34                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 16:31                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13  8:05                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:33                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 19:26                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-13 20:43                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14  8:08                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:36                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 22:57                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 14:07                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:23                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:30                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:33                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:41                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:56                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 15:05                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:14                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:15                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-08 14:34                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 12:02               ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize i8259 chip Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:55         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:09           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:22             ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 10:06               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 14:30                 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:48                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 18:06                     ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 19:49                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-11  9:10                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 13:41                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:31               ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:39                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:46                   ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 14:44                 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 11:46       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 13:54         ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:53           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 16:07           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 16:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 16:17             ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:22               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:29                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:34                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:42                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 17:11                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 10:02                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 12:02                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 14:32                 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:49                   ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                     ` <m31vlctk9q.fsf@neno.mitica>
2009-10-09 21:34                       ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-12 13:20                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 14:18                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-12 14:49                           ` Anthony Liguori

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