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From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@trasno.org>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>, kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:20:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD32D22.5090001@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m31vlctk9q.fsf@neno.mitica>

Juan Quintela wrote:
> I notice that discussion is going nowhere, basically we are in the
> state:
> - people that want one device
>   * they emulate the same hardware
>   * lots of code is shared
>   * they should be interchageable
>   * if they are not interchageable, it is a bug
>   * once that they are split, it is basically imposible to join then
>     again.
> - people that want 2 devices:
>   * The devices can more easily diverge if they are two devices
>   * They are not interchageable now
>   * It allows you more freedom in changing any of them if they are
>     separate.
>
> As you can see, none of the proposals is a clear winner.  And what is
> worse, we have the two maintainers (avi and anthony), the two with more
> experience having to deal with this kind of situation disagreeing.
>
> How to fix the impass?
>   

We already have the single device model implementation and the 
limitations are well known.  The best way to move forward is for someone 
to send out patches implementing separate device models.

At that point, it becomes a discussion of two concrete pieces of code 
verses hand waving.

> Later, Juan.
>   


-- 
Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-12 13:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-07 22:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Add in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/9] add base-addr field to io apic state Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/9] Save missing fields in VMState Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/9] provide apic_set_irq_delivered Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08           ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/9] provide in-kernel i8259 chip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08             ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize " Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08               ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 8/9] Initialize in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08                 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 9/9] Add -kvm option Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:00                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 23:14                     ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:58                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 14:04                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 15:34                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 16:31                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13  8:05                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:33                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 19:26                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-13 20:43                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14  8:08                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:36                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 22:57                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 14:07                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:23                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:30                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:33                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:41                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:56                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 15:05                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:14                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:15                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-08 14:34                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 12:02               ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize i8259 chip Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:55         ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:09           ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:22             ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 10:06               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 14:30                 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:48                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 18:06                     ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 19:49                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-11  9:10                       ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 13:41                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:26             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:31               ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:39                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:46                   ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 14:44                 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 11:46       ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:49       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 13:54         ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:53           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 16:07           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 16:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 16:17             ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:22               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:29                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:34                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:42                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 17:11                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 10:02                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 12:02                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 14:32                 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:49                   ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                     ` <m31vlctk9q.fsf@neno.mitica>
2009-10-09 21:34                       ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-12 13:20                       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-10-12 14:18                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-12 14:49                           ` Anthony Liguori

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