From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N2PtY-00069o-Om for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:46:00 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N2PtU-00065p-0O for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:46:00 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=50387 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N2PtT-00065g-JN for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:45:55 -0400 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.92.150]:17993) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2PtT-0006ZO-A1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:45:55 -0400 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so1606715qwc.4 for ; Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:45:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4AE5A80D.5040404@codemonkey.ws> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 08:45:49 -0500 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] new SDL keyboard shortcuts to start and stop VM References: <5d6222a80910210924j62505b7dtf298754ce65f1c99@mail.gmail.com> <20091021183503.GA27677@shareable.org> <20091022124036.5df991f3@doriath> <4AE07D06.4080205@codemonkey.ws> <20091022143833.51c48260@doriath> <4AE0A535.3000607@codemonkey.ws> <4AE15DFD.6050203@redhat.com> <4AE1974E.5010303@redhat.com> <4AE1B6A6.3060507@codemonkey.ws> <4AE46EA1.7040505@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4AE46EA1.7040505@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Kevin Wolf , Mulyadi Santosa , qemu-devel@nongnu.org Avi Kivity wrote: > On 10/23/2009 03:59 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: >> Your answer may be, this is for a developer and they'll be aware of >> all the short comings/gotchas but this ends up being a rather >> user-hostile interface. People are never as aware of short >> comings/gotchas as we'd like them to be. If there was no other way >> for a developer to do this, I'd be more inclined to find a way to >> support this but it's just a matter of writing a script or if you >> really need a short cut, you can do it with standard gnome short cuts >> or write a very simple vnc client based on gvncviewer (we're talking >> a dozen lines of added code) to do this for you. >> > > vncviewer based displays may work now, but they are inefficient and > will likely fall apart if/when we have 3D support. If it's chromium based (which I suspect it will be), you could certainly tunnel it via vnc. > I'd much rather see a real GUI client, perhaps implemented by > scripting QObjects or QMP. I'm with you 100% here. I'd rather see our focus put into a proper gui based on QMP than to tack on features to SDL. Regards, Anthony Liguori