From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N64LG-0005BF-6z for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:33:42 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N64LB-00056k-6q for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:33:41 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41327 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N64LA-00056S-OG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:33:36 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:16126) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N64LA-0007tl-A3 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:33:36 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF2F04B.8050105@redhat.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:33:31 +0200 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] net-bridge: rootless bridge support for qemu References: <1257294485-27015-1-git-send-email-aliguori@us.ibm.com> <4AF2E247.3090409@redhat.com> <4AF2E7CE.8010506@us.ibm.com> <4AF2EB17.8090202@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF2EB17.8090202@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Mark McLoughlin , Arnd Bergmann , Dustin Kirkland , Juan Quintela , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Tsirkin On 11/05/2009 05:11 PM, Avi Kivity wrote: > But we're forcing our style of security management on them. How to > store permissions is the management system's job (and for a clu^Houd, > it will typically be stored in a central database, not be scattered > around /etc). > > Again, IMO we should stick to making a guest work, and leave all the > glue to management. > As an example of why this is so, if the management stack wants to configure the tap interface further (say, add some ebtables rules guarding the new interface) it must push this into qemu or stop using -net bridge. Having the tap accessible to management also allows it to run tcpdump or collect statistics on it at runtime. -- error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function