From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N64ki-0002Bc-Vb for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:00:01 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1N64kc-000268-DS for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:00:00 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42145 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N64kb-00025k-S0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:59:53 -0500 Received: from e8.ny.us.ibm.com ([32.97.182.138]:58994) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N64kb-0004OW-CX for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:59:53 -0500 Received: from d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (d01relay01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.233]) by e8.ny.us.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1) with ESMTP id nA5BuCFM028322 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:56:12 -0500 Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (d01av01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.215]) by d01relay01.pok.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id nA5Fxqph037344 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:59:52 -0500 Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av01.pok.ibm.com (8.14.3/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id nA5FxpGN025203 for ; Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:59:51 -0500 Message-ID: <4AF2F674.6080205@us.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:59:48 -0600 From: Anthony Liguori MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] net-bridge: rootless bridge support for qemu References: <1257294485-27015-1-git-send-email-aliguori@us.ibm.com> <4AF2E247.3090409@redhat.com> <4AF2E7CE.8010506@us.ibm.com> <20091105151154.GF689@redhat.com> <4AF2EBBB.7070605@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <4AF2EBBB.7070605@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Avi Kivity Cc: Mark McLoughlin , Arnd Bergmann , Juan Quintela , Dustin Kirkland , qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Michael Tsirkin Avi Kivity wrote: > On 11/05/2009 05:11 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> The main problem is that we've never really used the 'session' >> instances, >> since networking configs are rather limited to pretty much just SLIRP >> and people expect full bridging. I think this patch series you've >> done is invaluable and will let us finally make full use of the libvirt >> 'session' instances for desktop virt, running everything unprivileged. >> >> > > What's to stop you from using the same idea to get a tap fd for the > unprivileged libvirtd instance? Why limit this to just libvirt based management tools? The helper has to live somewhere, why not have it live in qemu? libvirt can still call it and pass the fd to qemu if it really wants to. -- Regards, Anthony Liguori