From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>,
Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arndbergmann@googlemail.com>,
Michael Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>,
Dustin Kirkland <kirkland@canonical.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Add support for -net bridge
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:55:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF68767.4080707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911080843.25648.arnd@arndb.de>
On 11/08/2009 10:43 AM, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>> btw, shouldn't we, in the general case, create a bridge per user and use
>> IP NAT? If we have a global bridge, users can spoof each other's MAC
>> addresses and interfere with their virtual machines. They can also
>> interfere with the real network.
>>
>> That's not a concern with most one-user-per-machine configurations, but
>> the default configuration should be safe.
>>
> It also depends a lot on what you want to do with the virtual machine.
> If you want to run a game or a legacy application in a different operating
> system on your desktop, a NATed bridge is ideal, but it does not work
> on a server if the guest wants to listen on a socket with its own IP address.
>
Yes. It also depends on what the system administrator wants you to be
able to do. On desktop machines you are usually the system
administrator so there is no problem. But we should beware of making it
easy to subvert security.
There is also the problem of accidental MAC overlap - qemu uses the same
MAC address for all virtual machines unless overridden, so if two users
create a virtual machine without specifying MAC addresses they will
trample each other. A single user could also have trouble launching two
guests; that's not a security problem, but will lead to a lot of
annoyance and false bug reports ("networking dies as soon as I launch a
second guest").
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-08 8:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 125+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-04 0:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] net-bridge: rootless bridge support for qemu Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 0:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] Add basic version of bridge helper Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 0:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add access control support to qemu-bridge-helper Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 13:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add access control support toqemu-bridge-helper Krumme, Chris
2009-11-04 14:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 14:37 ` Krumme, Chris
2009-11-05 15:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] Add access control support to qemu-bridge-helper Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-04 0:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] Add cap reduction support to enable use as SUID binary Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 0:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] Add support for -net bridge Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 13:49 ` Krumme, Chris
2009-11-04 14:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 14:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-06 2:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-07 17:29 ` David Woodhouse
2009-11-07 22:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-08 8:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-08 8:43 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-08 8:55 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-11-09 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-09 15:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-09 15:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-09 19:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-10 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-04 12:02 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] net-bridge: rootless bridge support for qemu Alexander Graf
2009-11-04 14:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 15:02 ` Alexander Graf
2009-11-04 16:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 17:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 19:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 20:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-04 20:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 8:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 13:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-04 22:40 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-05 0:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 2:12 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-05 4:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 8:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-06 2:03 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06 11:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-06 20:26 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-08 11:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-05 13:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 14:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 14:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 14:46 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-05 14:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 16:51 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-06 1:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 14:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 15:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 16:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 16:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 16:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 17:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-05 17:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 18:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-05 19:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 18:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 18:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 19:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-06 1:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06 7:22 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-06 10:54 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06 12:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-07 3:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-06 14:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-07 9:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-07 9:43 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-07 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-07 21:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-07 22:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-08 8:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-07 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-06 0:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-06 7:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-06 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-07 9:27 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-07 10:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-07 11:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-09 19:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-10 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-10 13:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-07 13:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 15:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 15:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 15:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-06 2:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 16:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:33 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 16:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 17:16 ` Scott Tsai
2009-11-05 18:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-06 2:16 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 18:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-06 2:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 15:11 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-05 15:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 15:20 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-05 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 16:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 16:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-05 16:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-05 17:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-05 17:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-06 2:08 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 17:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-05 19:54 ` Gerhard Stenzel
2009-11-06 2:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-05 15:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-11-05 15:14 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-11-05 15:28 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-11-05 15:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
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