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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [sneak preview] major scsi overhaul
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:26:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AFAD7A8.70707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200911111413.09320.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 11/11/09 15:13, Paul Brook wrote:
>> The current qemu code *does* cache the response.  scsi-disk caps the
>> buffer at 128k (which is big enough for any request I've seen in my
>> testing).  scsi-generic has no cap.
>
> That cap is important.
> For scsi-generic you probably don't have a choice because of the way the
> kernel interface works.

Exactly.  And why is the cap important for scsi-disk if scsi-generic 
does fine without?

>> scsi-disk: dma_bdrv_{read,write} will split it into smaller chunks if
>> needed.
>
> You seem to be assuming the HBA knows where it's going to put the data before
> it issues the command.  This is not true (see blow).

You are talking about a real HBA I guess?

>> lsi (only one in-tree with TCQ support) works like this:
>>
>> - allocate + parse scsi command.        scsi_req_get+scsi_req_parse
>> - continue script processing, collect
>>     DMA addresses and stick them into
>>     a scatter list until it is complete.
>> - queue command and disconnect.
>> - submit I/O to the qemu block layer    scsi_req_sgl
>>
>> *can process more scsi commands here*
>>
>> - when I/O is finished reselect tag
>> - return status, release request.       scsi_req_put
>
> I'm pretty sure this is wrong,

This describes what the lsi emulation does with my patches applied.

> and what actually happens is:
>
> 1) Wait for device to reconnect (goto 5), or commands from host (goto 2).
>
> 2) SCRIPTS connect to device, and send command.
> 3) If device has data immediately (metadata command) then goto 6
> 4) Device disconnects. goto 1
>
> 5) Device has data ready, and reconnects
> 6) SCRIPTS locate the next DMA block for this command, and initiate a (linear)
> DMA transfer.
> 7) DATA is transferred. Note that DMA stalls the SCRIPTS processor until the
> transfer completes.
> 8) If the device still has data then goto 6.
> 9) If the device runs out of data before the command completes then goto 3.
> 10) Command complete. goto 1

This is what a real HBA does.

> Note that the IO command is parsed at stage 2, but the data transfer is not
> requested until stage 6. i.e. after the command has partially completed. This
> window between issue and data transfer is where other commands are issued.

Or when the device disconnects again in the middle of a transfer.

> The only way to make your API work is to skip straight from step 3 to step 6,
> which effectively looses the command queueing capability.

It doesn't.  The disconnect and thus the opportunity to submit more 
commands while the device is busy doing the actual I/O is there.

> It may be that it's
> hard/impossible to get both command queueing and zero-copy.

I have it working.

cheers,
   Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-11 15:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-06 23:09 [Qemu-devel] [sneak preview] major scsi overhaul Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-07 15:22 ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-09  9:08   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-09 12:37     ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-09 13:03       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-09 13:17         ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-09 13:39           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-09 13:48             ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-09 20:38       ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-09 21:25         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-11  4:06 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11  9:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-11 14:13     ` Paul Brook
2009-11-11 15:26       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2009-11-11 16:38         ` Paul Brook
2009-11-16 16:35           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-16 18:53             ` Paul Brook
2009-11-16 21:50               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-24 11:59               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-24 13:51                 ` Paul Brook
2009-11-25 16:37                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26  7:31                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-26  8:25                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 10:57                         ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-26 11:04                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 11:20                             ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-26 14:21                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 14:27                                 ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-26 14:37                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 15:50                                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-27 11:08                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-02 13:47                                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-07  8:28                                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-12-07  8:50                                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-16 19:08             ` Ryan Harper
2009-11-16 20:40               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-16 21:45                 ` Ryan Harper
2009-11-11 11:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-11 11:52   ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-11 13:02     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-11 13:30       ` Hannes Reinecke
2009-11-11 14:37         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-12  9:54           ` Hannes Reinecke

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