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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:45:13 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0BE369.2000807@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091124132154.GE2405@redhat.com>

Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 09:49:26AM -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>>>    We cannot even create a new 'hack section' for new code since the
>>>    sections are ordered and expected to be exact match on the
>>>    destination.
>>>
>>>    The result is that new->old migration cannot work. This is not cross
>>>    releases even! It means that even a small bug in current release
>>>    prevents live migration between various instances of the code.
>>>    It forces us to decide whether to fix pvclock migration issue vs
>>>    allow new->old migration. Another ugly hack is to add cmdline that
>>>    will control this behavior. Still it's a pain to mgmt stack and
>>>    users.
>>>       
>> This is a pretty normal policy (backwards compat but not forwards compat).
>>     
>
> No one is asking that old qemu magically understands new format. It
> would be enough that new qemu is able to migrate to a format that old
> one understands.
>   

I've got no problem with that provided it's something explicitly 
requested by the user.  This requires no migration protocol change 
though so if this is what folks are asking for, why is this thread 
focused around changing the live migration protocol?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-24 13:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-22 15:03 [Qemu-devel] Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts Dor Laor
2009-11-22 15:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-22 20:22   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23  2:17     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23  8:18       ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 13:04         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23  8:26       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23  9:29         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23  9:31           ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]             ` <m3einp4e7c.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 12:37               ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]         ` <m3iqd14edf.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 12:36           ` Gleb Natapov
     [not found]             ` <m3r5rpwcww.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 14:32               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 14:51                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 14:53                   ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 15:05                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:22                       ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 15:30                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 15:32                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:49                           ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:09                             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 16:15                               ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:19                                 ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                   ` <m33a45s009.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 16:05                     ` Gleb Natapov
2009-11-23 16:10                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 13:28             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 13:01           ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <m3vdh1wd0n.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 14:49               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:21                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 16:16                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 17:08                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 18:28                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 19:24                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 19:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 21:21                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-24 11:00                         ` Dor Laor
     [not found]                 ` <m3y6lxqkpv.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 16:44                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <m3zl6db11z.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-23 18:44                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 20:24                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-24 13:39                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 13:51       ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 14:21         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-23 15:00           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 15:37             ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 15:02           ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-11-23 15:12             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 14:26               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 14:53         ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 14:28           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:33             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 16:05               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]                 ` <m3skc2r66t.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-25 16:28                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:17       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:35         ` Paul Brook
2009-11-24 13:49           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:59             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2009-11-24 14:21               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 17:06                 ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-24 17:08                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 17:43                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 18:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 18:56                         ` Blue Swirl
2009-11-24 19:24                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 18:57                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 19:29                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-24 20:01                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]             ` <m3my2ct2qe.fsf@neno.neno>
2009-11-24 17:41               ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-11-24 13:21   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 13:45     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-11-24 13:55       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-23 12:15 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-23 13:09   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-11-23 14:13     ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:05       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:20         ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:35           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:42             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 13:42               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:10                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 14:09                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:52                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-26 18:03                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-11-25 13:36         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 13:40           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:59             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-11-25 14:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 14:53                 ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-25 15:01                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 10:39   ` Dor Laor
2009-11-24 14:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 14:21       ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 14:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-24 16:05         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25  9:30           ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-25  9:32             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-11-25 13:36               ` Juan Quintela
2009-11-24 13:59   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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