From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDI8i-0008QC-A8 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:42:36 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NDI8d-0008JG-2M for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:42:35 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56388 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NDI8c-0008J9-T1 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:42:30 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:17862) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NDI8c-0005mm-N0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:42:30 -0500 Received: from int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx01.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.11]) by mx1.redhat.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id nAPDgTmL028921 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 25 Nov 2009 08:42:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4B0D3441.8010307@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:42:25 +0100 From: Gerd Hoffmann MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Live migration protocol, device features, ABIs and other beasts References: <4B0952C9.9010803@redhat.com> <4B0A899F.2090805@codemonkey.ws> <20091124140517.GL2405@redhat.com> <20091124143523.GQ2405@redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <20091124143523.GQ2405@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" Cc: dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel , Juan Quintela >> And this is also the trivial part to describe: I want a >> machine like the one in qemu-0.11. > > Yes, but there might be a ton of reasons to want a > machine like the one in qemu 0.11. > The need to migrate to old qemu is very rare, > it is a completely separate decision > one might take long after starting qemu, Doesn't work. If you have a qemu 0.11 machine, a virtio nic and your guest uses MSI-X you simply can't migrate to qemu 0.10. End of story. If you want to be able to migrate to 0.10 you have to start in 0.10 compat mode with MSI-X disabled. So IMHO it does makes sense to tie the savevm format to -M pc-. cheers, Gerd