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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks.
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:47:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1A9C9F.5040705@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B1A98D9.7010408@redhat.com>

Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/05/2009 12:29 AM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>
>> Well disk sharing isn't actually bad as long as it's raw or a 
>> physical device.
>>
>> For qcow2, it's very complicated by backing files because we really 
>> need to express the concept of a read-write lock.
>>
>> That is, as long as the guests are opening the file read only, you 
>> should allow many readers.  However, you should prevent anyone from 
>> opening with write permission.  Likewise, writes should prevent 
>> future reads.
>>
>
> Well shared/exclusive or read/write locks support exactly that.
>
> For non-raw storage we should take the locks unconditionally, since 
> there is no useful way to share such images opened for write access.
>

I think I made my point poorly.  Consider the following:

qemu-img create -f raw base.img 10G
qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b base.img cow1.img
qemu-img create -f qcow2 -b base.img cow2.img

qemu -drive file=cow1.img,lock=exclusive
qemu -drive file=cow2.img,lock=exclusive

With the current patch, the second command will fail and it's impossible 
to invoke correctly.  That's because flags are passed down to backing 
devices directly.  You really need to be much smarter here in how you 
handle locking.

Exposing exclusive/shared is probably the wrong interface.  I think the 
better thing to do would be to expose a boolean and then automatically 
choose the proper lock type.  This make require some deeper surgery to 
get right as we currently don't handle cdrom's intelligently (we try to 
open with write permission first).

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-05 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-04 16:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-04 21:57   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 22:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:31       ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:47         ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-05 17:55           ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:59             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 10:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 10:42                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:56                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:51                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 12:06                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:19                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:30                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:31                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:38                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:49                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:59                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:35                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:01                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:15                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:28                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:53                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:40                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:04                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 10:58           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:35             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 13:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:08               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:31                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:48                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:16                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:38               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07  9:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:39 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 13:38     ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:25     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:58       ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH VERSION 2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 15:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  8:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-08 10:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:25     ` Richard W.M. Jones

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