From: Ian Molton <ian.molton@collabora.co.uk>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Permit zero-sized qemu_malloc() & friends
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:39:27 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1CCD4F.3030003@collabora.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091207025156.GD1021@shareable.org>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
> If the system as a whole runs out of memory so that no-overcommit
> malloc() fails on a small alloc, there's a good chance that you won't
> be able to send a message to the host
Send what message to the host? If the malloc in the socet reconnect code
fails, its the code on the host thats going to flag up that malloc failed.
> and if it does manage to receive the message, you can be almost
> certain that it won't be able to run any GUI operations, send mail,
> etc. to inform the admin.
OTOH, If all it does it log it to a file, theres a fair chance it might
succeed.
> There's no point writing the code for the first steps, if it's
> intractable to make the later steps do something useful.
OTOH, a simple printed warning, and closing the socket are fairly likely
to work.
> Btw, as an admin I would really rather the socket reconnection code
> keeps trying in that circumstance, if qemu does not simply fall over
> due to alloc failing for something else soon after.
Surely better to keep running by dropping nonessential services so that
the guest might get a chance to shut down or the host might recover.
> I'd rather it behaves like a broken HWRNG if it can't get host
> entropy: Don't provide data, and let the guest decide what to do, just
> like it does for a broken HWRNG.
It does.
> Except virtio-rng can report unavailability rather than simply being broken :-)
It could, in theory.
-Ian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-07 9:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-30 13:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Permit zero-sized qemu_malloc() & friends Markus Armbruster
2009-11-30 14:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-11-30 14:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-01 12:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 12:57 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-01 13:47 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-01 14:08 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-01 14:47 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 14:21 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-01 12:57 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 13:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-01 14:34 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-01 14:53 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-01 15:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2009-12-04 16:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 13:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-05 14:14 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-05 17:08 ` malc
2009-12-05 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 18:30 ` Reimar Döffinger
2009-12-06 7:57 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 8:39 ` malc
2009-12-06 8:59 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 10:22 ` malc
2009-12-06 10:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 11:53 ` malc
2009-12-06 12:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 12:11 ` malc
2009-12-06 12:23 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 11:10 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 12:00 ` malc
2009-12-06 16:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 8:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 9:42 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 10:00 ` malc
2009-12-07 10:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:35 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 11:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-06 12:02 ` malc
2009-12-06 16:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-06 9:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2009-12-06 10:02 ` malc
2009-12-05 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 18:06 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 20:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 22:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 8:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 18:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-06 8:12 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-06 16:52 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 17:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 17:45 ` malc
2009-12-06 18:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:12 ` malc
2009-12-06 18:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:41 ` malc
2009-12-07 9:47 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:20 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-06 22:38 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-07 2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 9:39 ` Ian Molton [this message]
2009-12-07 9:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 9:45 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 8:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 17:32 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-05 17:28 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-05 17:44 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 18:16 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-05 23:08 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-05 23:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 23:25 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 13:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 16:58 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 17:47 ` malc
2009-12-06 17:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:09 ` malc
2009-12-06 18:16 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-06 18:21 ` malc
2009-12-06 22:40 ` Ian Molton
2009-12-06 18:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 9:56 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 11:30 ` malc
2009-12-07 14:45 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-07 16:55 ` malc
2009-12-08 8:21 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-12-08 10:22 ` malc
2009-12-07 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:26 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 17:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:13 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 17:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 18:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 18:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 19:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 19:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:24 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-07 16:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 16:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 16:57 ` malc
2009-12-07 17:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 17:09 ` malc
2009-12-08 9:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 18:12 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-08 8:30 ` Markus Armbruster
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