From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks.
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:15:51 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1D0E17.7040507@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091207140132.GN24530@redhat.com>
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> Better to stick with on/off. That gives much easier to understand
>> semantics.
>>
>
> The 3rd invocation is not changing the backing file, so it is not causing
> data corruption on the master file. Sure the 3rd OS instance will probably
> crash & get confused because its backing file is changing under its feet
> but as long as 'commit' isn't used, it is still safe.
The 3rd instance is getting data corruption. The corruption is
transient because we're using -snapshot but if you change the scenario
to use a persistent cow overlay, then the corruption is permanent.
The semantics of shared/exclusive are non-obvious to anything but
someone who understands the implementation.
> 'commit' should
> require that the disk have been locked in exclusive mode from the time
> it started. It is not safe to merely let it upgrade the lock from
> shared to exclusive at time of committing because of this exact scenario.
>
I don't understand why it isn't safe to temporarily acquire a write lock
with commit. Can you give an example of how it would cause corruption?
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Daniel
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-07 14:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-04 16:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-04 21:57 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 22:29 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 10:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 10:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:48 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:56 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 12:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:30 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:38 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:59 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:01 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-07 14:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08 9:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:04 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 10:58 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:35 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 13:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:08 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:31 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08 9:48 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:16 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 9:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:39 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 13:38 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:25 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:58 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH VERSION 2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 15:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08 8:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-08 10:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:25 ` Richard W.M. Jones
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