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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks.
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:15:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1D0E17.7040507@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091207140132.GN24530@redhat.com>

Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> Better to stick with on/off.  That gives much easier to understand 
>> semantics.
>>     
>
> The 3rd invocation is not changing the backing file, so it is not causing
> data corruption on the master file. Sure the 3rd OS instance will probably
> crash & get confused because its backing file is changing under its feet
> but as long as 'commit' isn't used, it is still safe.

The 3rd instance is getting data corruption.  The corruption is 
transient because we're using -snapshot but if you change the scenario 
to use a persistent cow overlay, then the corruption is permanent.

The semantics of shared/exclusive are non-obvious to anything but 
someone who understands the implementation.

>  'commit' should 
> require that the disk have been locked in exclusive  mode from the time
> it started. It is not safe to merely let it upgrade the lock from
> shared to exclusive at time of committing because of this exact scenario.
>   
I don't understand why it isn't safe to temporarily acquire a write lock 
with commit.  Can you give an example of how it would cause corruption?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Daniel
>   

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-07 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-04 16:53 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Disk image shared and exclusive locks Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-04 21:57   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-04 22:29     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:31       ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:47         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-05 17:55           ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-05 17:59             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 10:31               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 10:42                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 10:48                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-07 10:56                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:28                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:51                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 12:06                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:19                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:30                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:31                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:38                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 11:49                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 11:59                           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:35                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07 13:43                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:01                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:15                           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-07 14:28                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:53                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:40                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-07 11:04                 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 10:58           ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 11:35             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-07 13:39             ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:08               ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:22                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:31                   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:55                     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  9:48                     ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:16                       ` Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 14:38               ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-07  9:38   ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 10:39 ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:32   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 13:38     ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-07 14:25     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-07 14:58       ` Chris Webb
2009-12-07 14:16 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH VERSION 2] " Richard W.M. Jones
2009-12-07 15:06   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-08  8:48     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-08 10:00   ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2009-12-08 10:25     ` Richard W.M. Jones

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