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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Mark McLoughlin <markmc@redhat.com>
Cc: Yaniv Kamay <ykamay@redhat.com>, Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:38:18 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B229FAA.8010606@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1260559510.29755.14.camel@blaa>

Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:04 -0600, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>   
>> But to introduce another protocol where a user has to make a choice to 
>> use Spice over VNC, I think we need a really good justification for 
>> that.  It's really about complexity.  A user shouldn't have to know 
>> about Spice or VNC.  They shouldn't have to contemplate the trade-offs 
>> of whether their management tool is aware or not.  It should Just Work. 
>>     
>
> That's a good goal.
>
> If we add a new protocol, we could achieve the same thing by allowing
> qemu support both VNC and Spice at runtime. Then you just need a client
> like virt-viewer that can handle both protocols, and old VNC clients
> will continue to be able to connect to newer qemu.
>   

Supporting them at the same time could be potentially challenging.  You 
would need to render Spice locally in qemu in order to expose it via vnc.

Another nasty bit is that two protocols mean two different sets of 
authentication mechanisms.  Does Spice support SASL based 
authentication?  Could it make sense to essentially tunnel Spice through 
vnc in order to reuse the existing authentication infrastructure?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-11 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2009-12-11 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 14:03   ` Jun Koi
2009-12-11 14:17     ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 14:09   ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 14:28     ` Jun Koi
2009-12-11 16:34       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 16:52         ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:01           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:31             ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:02         ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 17:16           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:21             ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 17:28               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:18           ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 18:49           ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 15:57   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 16:47     ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 16:57       ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:00       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:38         ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-12-11 18:48     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 18:57       ` Ben Taylor
2009-12-11 19:06         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:09         ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:00       ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:06         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:22           ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:37             ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:07         ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:24           ` Izik Eidus
2010-01-23 23:39           ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:03       ` malc
2009-12-11 19:10         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:24           ` malc
2009-12-11 19:33             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:53               ` malc
2009-12-11 20:26                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-13 11:11                   ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:04       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:15         ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:25           ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:42           ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 19:21         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:30           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:39             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:51               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 20:21                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 20:46                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 21:13                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 21:54                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 22:34                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  0:54                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12  3:34                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12  9:14                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12 15:11                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 16:09                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-12 17:28                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13 10:18                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-11 22:08                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 22:33                         ` Dor Laor
2009-12-11 22:46                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 23:54                           ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:14                             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  0:27                               ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:53                                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  1:08                                   ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  1:33                                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 23:58                           ` [Qemu-devel] X support for QXL and SPICE Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-12  0:05                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:31                               ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  0:37                                 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12  0:08                             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  3:31                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12  3:52                               ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 15:13                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 15:29                                   ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 15:43                                     ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 16:01                                       ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12  6:22                               ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-12 16:39                               ` Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-14 14:07                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 13:56                         ` [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:33                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 20:32                 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 20:48                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 21:31                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 21:58                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 22:55                         ` Chris Wright
2009-12-12  3:27                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12  1:03                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12  3:44                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 14:44                             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 15:03                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 16:06                                 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 17:40                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 17:48                                     ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 19:26                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 19:48                                         ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 22:41                                           ` Dor Laor
2009-12-12 22:35                                     ` Dor Laor
2009-12-12 23:46                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13  0:23                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-13 10:46                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 14:42                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 14:53                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 15:17                                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-14 15:21                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 15:46                                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 15:10                                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-14 15:50                                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 16:00                                               ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 16:15                                                 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 17:52                                               ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-13 14:56                                         ` Gildas Le Nadan
2009-12-14 14:40                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:50                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 23:43                                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 23:52                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13  0:04                                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-13  0:18                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13  9:10                                             ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-15 13:25                                         ` Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-11 19:25         ` [Qemu-devel] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-11 19:38           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-11 19:45             ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-11 19:53               ` Anthony Liguori
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2009-12-11 14:23 ` Yaniv Kamay
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2009-12-11 17:07 ` Yaniv Kamay

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