From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Spice project is now open
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 21:44:02 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B231182.1080208@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <hfuq4h$u0a$2@ger.gmane.org>
Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 12/11/2009 10:58 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> The concerns have been 1) they will be abused with the introduction
>> of proprietary plugins
>
> How so?
A typical scenario is someone develops a closed source plugin, but does
not distribute it with the original piece of software thinking that they
aren't creating a derived work because there's no combination.
But it's not necessary to get too tied up in this one. The later are
more important.
>> 2) we would have tremendous difficulty maintaining a stable plugin abi
>
> Then don't promise it. GCC doesn't for example. (And it solves
> problem 1 too!...)
GCC is not the best example since it's support for plugins are
relatively new. It's bad for users. They start using a plugin for one
version and they really like it, they want to update to a new version of
the base program and now their plugin no longer works. The plugin has
gone unmaintained and now they have to choose between the plugin and
updating the base program.
>> 3) they would create stability issues
>> in qemu because the plugin quality cannot be controlled.
>
> How is this different from 3rd party modules in the kernel?
I don't think the kernel is an example of it working smoothly. It's a
constant source of frustration for users and people are constantly doing
ugly things wrt licensing.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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2009-12-11 13:45 ` [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 14:03 ` Jun Koi
2009-12-11 14:17 ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 14:09 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 14:28 ` Jun Koi
2009-12-11 16:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 16:52 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:31 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:02 ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 17:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:21 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 17:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:18 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 18:49 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 15:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 16:47 ` Yaniv Kamay
2009-12-11 16:57 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 17:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 17:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2009-12-11 18:48 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 18:57 ` Ben Taylor
2009-12-11 19:06 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:09 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:00 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:22 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:37 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:07 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:24 ` Izik Eidus
2010-01-23 23:39 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:03 ` malc
2009-12-11 19:10 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:24 ` malc
2009-12-11 19:33 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:53 ` malc
2009-12-11 20:26 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-13 11:11 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:15 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-11 19:25 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:42 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-11 19:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:39 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 19:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 20:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 20:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 21:13 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 21:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 22:34 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 0:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12 3:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 9:14 ` Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12 15:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 16:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-12 17:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13 10:18 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-11 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-12-11 22:33 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-11 22:46 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 23:54 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 0:14 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 0:27 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 0:53 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 1:08 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 1:33 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 23:58 ` [Qemu-devel] X support for QXL and SPICE Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-12 0:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 0:31 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 0:37 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 0:08 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 3:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 3:52 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 15:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 15:29 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 15:43 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-12 16:01 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 6:22 ` Dave Airlie
2009-12-12 16:39 ` Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-14 14:07 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 13:56 ` [Qemu-devel] Spice project is now open Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 20:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 20:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 21:31 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-11 21:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 22:55 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-12 3:27 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 1:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-12 3:44 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-12 14:44 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 15:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 16:06 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 17:48 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 19:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 19:48 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-12 22:41 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-12 22:35 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-12 23:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13 0:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-13 10:46 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 14:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 14:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 15:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-14 15:21 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 15:46 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 15:10 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-12-14 15:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 16:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-14 16:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 17:52 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-13 14:56 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2009-12-14 14:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:50 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-12 23:43 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-12 23:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13 0:04 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-12-13 0:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-13 9:10 ` Izik Eidus
2009-12-15 13:25 ` Soeren Sandmann
2009-12-11 19:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-11 19:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-11 19:45 ` Mark McLoughlin
2009-12-11 19:53 ` Anthony Liguori
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