From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJUWw-0006Ia-Cx for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:09:14 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NJUWr-0006Fq-O0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:09:14 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41688 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NJUWr-0006FV-B0 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:09:09 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:61333) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NJUWq-00013h-CG for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:09:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4B23C020.6060303@redhat.com> Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2009 18:09:04 +0200 From: Avi Kivity MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Spice project is now open References: <1393046876.1549021260539141025.JavaMail.root@zmail05.collab.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com> <4B226BFC.1040606@codemonkey.ws> <20091211204828.464707cf@redhat.com> <4B2297A2.8040102@codemonkey.ws> <20091211212135.645864f9@redhat.com> <4B229DCE.7070500@codemonkey.ws> <20091211213911.0dce90dc@redhat.com> <4B22A2D9.6020602@codemonkey.ws> <20091211222101.5e924d20@redhat.com> <4B22AFBF.6080709@codemonkey.ws> <20091211231334.3d8a599f@redhat.com> <4B22BFAC.90100@codemonkey.ws> <4B230F4A.2050506@codemonkey.ws> <4B23B286.9080501@codemonkey.ws> In-Reply-To: <4B23B286.9080501@codemonkey.ws> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: qemu-devel.nongnu.org List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Anthony Liguori Cc: Paolo Bonzini , qemu-devel@nongnu.org On 12/12/2009 05:11 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote: > >> I have no idea how SPICE performs now, but there's definitely nothing >> in a modern X Windows desktop that it cannot deal with. The only >> negative point it might have compared to Windows is IMO the rendering >> of text. > > I think the question I was raising was not whether Spice could handle > X, but that given the things you can do with X, is all of Spice really > needed. IOW, would we get 99% of the way there with Xv accelerated > overlays and Xrender based compositing for VNC? Suppose only 1% of spice is needed to support X. Given that we wish to support Windows well, does it matter? -- Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.