From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 09:33:14 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B2E43BA.7030404@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B2E3AC5.3040200@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 12/20/2009 04:48 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe we should make -cpu host the default. That will give the best
>>> performance for casual users, more testing for newer features, and
>>> will force management apps to treat migration much more seriously.
>>> The downside is that casual users upgrading their machines might
>>> experience issues with Windows. Feature compatibility is not just
>>> about migration.
>>
>> Yes, I'd much rather do this than mucking with vendor_id. If we're
>> going to give up on cross vendor migration by default, I think we
>> should go for best performance.
>
> If we do this, we need to advertise it clearly:
>
> - casual (non-management-app-using) users will start seeing problems
> with Windows guests unless they change their command lines
Assuming their migrating across different CPU types.
> - management apps really have to take cpuid into account now
> (previously, it was just a good idea)
Yes. I think we probably should have a management app writers guide
that spells out all of the quirks and best practices that we often
discuss here and assume that management app writers are going to follow.
Sounds like a good thing to live in the proposes docs directory :-)
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-20 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-14 19:35 [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 21:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 17:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 9:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-20 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 16:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:17 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:29 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 18:06 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-20 18:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 7:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 8:28 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-21 22:51 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 13:54 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-22 15:19 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-05 6:06 ` john cooper
2010-01-06 8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <4B31F1BA.10005@redhat.com>
2010-01-06 0:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 3:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 13:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:55 ` Alexander Graf
2010-01-06 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:48 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 8:03 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:11 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:40 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 11:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 11:44 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:20 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 13:42 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-07 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:17 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 16:19 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-12-21 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:59 ` Andre Przywara
2009-12-21 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 23:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 11:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:22 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:45 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-22 22:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 13:45 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 13:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 14:07 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 16:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 12:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Yaniv Kaul
2009-12-21 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-22 22:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-16 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andre Przywara
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