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From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Laurent Desnogues <laurent.desnogues@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	aurelien@aurel32.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] tcg conditional set, round 4
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:28:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B2FDA53.6040605@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <761ea48b0912210113p42608776q7677f79eec83f5a6@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/21/2009 01:13 AM, Laurent Desnogues wrote:
> The question for the generalized movcond is how useful is it?
> Which front-ends would need it and would the cost to generate
> code for it on some (most?) back-ends be amortized?

... Any front end that has a conditional move instruction?
Sparcv9, Mips32, Alpha, ARM...

That said, I think the *biggest* gains are to be had because with 
movcond -- at least on some targets -- we can have one BB per TB, and 
avoid any intermediate spilling of global registers back to memory.

> My guess (I use that word given that I didn't do any benchmark
> to sustain my claim) is that your implementation is too complex.

Too complex for what?  The message against which you are quoting has an 
implementation of 2 lines.

> Of course setcond can be implemented in terms of movcond,
> but my guess (again that word...) is that setcond could be
> enough and even faster in most cases.

To implement condition codes, yes, to implement compare instructions 
(e.g. mips slt, alpha cmp{eq,lt,lte}), yes.  To implement conditional 
moves, no.  At least not without using 5 instructions where 1 would suffice.

> Regarding your patches, I would like to see setcond put in
> mainline with a simplified version for i386.

Again, simplified from what?  The last setcond implementation was 2 lines.


r~

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-12-21 20:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-19 18:52 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] tcg conditional set, round 4 Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 16:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] tcg-x86_64: Implement setcond Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11   ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 18:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] tcg: Generic support for conditional set Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11   ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 23:24     ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:45       ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-22 11:27   ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-22 16:09     ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 18:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] tcg-i386: Implement small forward branches Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11   ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 23:32   ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-20  1:17     ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 18:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] tcg: Add tcg_invert_cond Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11   ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] tcg-i386: Implement setcond Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11   ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-22 12:20     ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-19 23:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] tcg conditional set, round 4 Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 23:43   ` malc
2009-12-20 11:03     ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 22:57 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-21  2:00   ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-21  9:13     ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-21  9:47       ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-21 10:03         ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-21 20:28       ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2009-12-21 22:21         ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-21 22:50           ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-21 23:08             ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-22  0:02               ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-22 14:46                 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-22  7:19         ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-21 10:08     ` Aurelien Jarno

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