From: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
To: Laurent Desnogues <laurent.desnogues@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
aurelien@aurel32.net, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] tcg conditional set, round 4
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:28:03 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B2FDA53.6040605@twiddle.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <761ea48b0912210113p42608776q7677f79eec83f5a6@mail.gmail.com>
On 12/21/2009 01:13 AM, Laurent Desnogues wrote:
> The question for the generalized movcond is how useful is it?
> Which front-ends would need it and would the cost to generate
> code for it on some (most?) back-ends be amortized?
... Any front end that has a conditional move instruction?
Sparcv9, Mips32, Alpha, ARM...
That said, I think the *biggest* gains are to be had because with
movcond -- at least on some targets -- we can have one BB per TB, and
avoid any intermediate spilling of global registers back to memory.
> My guess (I use that word given that I didn't do any benchmark
> to sustain my claim) is that your implementation is too complex.
Too complex for what? The message against which you are quoting has an
implementation of 2 lines.
> Of course setcond can be implemented in terms of movcond,
> but my guess (again that word...) is that setcond could be
> enough and even faster in most cases.
To implement condition codes, yes, to implement compare instructions
(e.g. mips slt, alpha cmp{eq,lt,lte}), yes. To implement conditional
moves, no. At least not without using 5 instructions where 1 would suffice.
> Regarding your patches, I would like to see setcond put in
> mainline with a simplified version for i386.
Again, simplified from what? The last setcond implementation was 2 lines.
r~
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-21 20:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-19 18:52 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] tcg conditional set, round 4 Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 16:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] tcg-x86_64: Implement setcond Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 18:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] tcg: Generic support for conditional set Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 23:24 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:45 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-22 11:27 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-22 16:09 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 18:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] tcg-i386: Implement small forward branches Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 23:32 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-20 1:17 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 18:44 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] tcg: Add tcg_invert_cond Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 18:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] tcg-i386: Implement setcond Richard Henderson
2009-12-19 23:11 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-22 12:20 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-19 23:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] tcg conditional set, round 4 Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-19 23:43 ` malc
2009-12-20 11:03 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 22:57 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-21 2:00 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-21 9:13 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-21 9:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-21 10:03 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-21 20:28 ` Richard Henderson [this message]
2009-12-21 22:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-21 22:50 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-21 23:08 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-22 0:02 ` Richard Henderson
2009-12-22 14:46 ` Laurent Desnogues
2009-12-22 7:19 ` Aurelien Jarno
2009-12-21 10:08 ` Aurelien Jarno
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