From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
Cc: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
John Cooper <john.cooper@redhat.com>,
dlaor@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 15:47:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B449467.4070606@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B448F36.8030605@codemonkey.ws>
On 01/06/2010 03:25 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
> On 01/05/2010 09:25 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> Typically, there is at least a little sanity naming for these
>>> cases. For instance, any Xeon W35xx should have the same features.
>>> A Xeon W55xx may be different.
>>>
>>> It's not going to be easy to include every possible model. It's a
>>> hard problem for management tools too. The thing is, I imagine most
>>> management tools are going to cat /proc/cpuinfo to get what the
>>> processor is and that's going to be a Xeon YYXXXX type name so I
>>> really believe that's the thing that makes sense to expose in QEMU.
>>>
>>> Maybe we could name models like IntelXeonW35xx.
>>>
>>
>> While a W3501 should be similar to a W3599, we don't know if it
>> actually will be. You are no longer on a Fully Correct path and
>> instead you are wandering in Marketing Land.
>>
>> Note that the processor type is just part of what determines which
>> features are exposed to the guest. Qemu version, kvm version, host
>> kernel version, and even kernel command-line parameters all play a
>> part, so to really determine migratability the management tool should
>> talk to qemu, not /proc/cpuinfo.
>
> So if I understand correctly, you're advocating to drop the idea of
> common model names, and provide a mechanism for a management tool to
> query which cpu features are supported both by the processor, but also
> filtered by qemu, kvm, etc?
Well, it's nice to have a -cpu X1234, so I wouldn't recommend dropping
it, but certainly a migration pool that doesn't assume anything about
the host qemu and kernel version needs more fine-grained information.
>
> I think that's workable but I think there may be some subtle issues
> especially across qemu versions. Can you give an example of what you
> would expect the output to be?
-> { command: query-cpu-capabalities }
<- { result: { features: [vm, fpu, lm, sse2, sse3, sssse3, ssssssse3,
sse3.14 ], cache: { ... }, vendor: { .... }, etc. } }
Or something. We'd need similar queries for the number of PCI slots,
for example, so the GUI can tell the user when adding hardware is no
longer an option instead of trying it blindly and returning an error.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-01-06 13:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-14 19:35 [Qemu-devel] cpuid problem in upstream qemu with kvm Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:00 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:08 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-14 20:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 21:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 17:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 17:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 9:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 14:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 14:55 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:53 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 15:59 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 16:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:17 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:29 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:37 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 17:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 18:06 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 7:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-20 18:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 7:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 8:28 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-21 22:51 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 13:54 ` Dor Laor
2009-12-22 15:19 ` john cooper
2009-12-22 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-05 6:06 ` john cooper
2010-01-06 8:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
[not found] ` <4B31F1BA.10005@redhat.com>
2010-01-06 0:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 3:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 13:47 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-01-06 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 13:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 13:55 ` Alexander Graf
2010-01-06 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 14:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 14:48 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 8:03 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:18 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:11 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 9:24 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 9:40 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 11:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 11:44 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:20 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 12:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 12:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 13:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-07 13:42 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-01-07 11:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-07 12:17 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-07 8:24 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-07 9:13 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-06 15:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-06 15:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-06 9:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 9:54 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 10:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-01-06 10:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-06 16:19 ` Lennart Sorensen
2009-12-21 11:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:59 ` Andre Przywara
2009-12-21 16:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 23:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 11:12 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 11:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:22 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:45 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-21 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-22 22:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-21 12:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 13:45 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 13:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 14:07 ` David S. Ahern
2009-12-21 16:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 12:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-21 12:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-21 11:38 ` Yaniv Kaul
2009-12-21 13:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2009-12-22 22:56 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-12-16 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andre Przywara
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