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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH] performance improvement for windows guests, running on top of virtio block device
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:22:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B4B424B.2070300@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B4B4199.9050603@redhat.com>

On 01/11/2010 09:19 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>> OTOH, if we aggressively poll the ring when we have an opportunity 
>>>> to, there's very little down side to that and it addresses the 
>>>> serialization problem.
>>>
>>> But we can't guarantee that we'll get those opportunities, so it 
>>> doesn't address the problem in a general way.  A guest that doesn't 
>>> use hpet and only has a single virtio-blk device will not have any 
>>> reason to exit to qemu.
>>
>> We can mitigate this with a timer but honestly, we need to do perf 
>> measurements to see.  My feeling is that we will need some more 
>> aggressive form of polling than just waiting for IO completion.  I 
>> don't think queue depth is enough because it assumes that all 
>> requests are equal.  When dealing with cache=off or even just storage 
>> with it's own cache, that's simply not the case.
>
> Maybe we can adapt behaviour dynamically based on how fast results 
> come in.

Based on our experiences with virtio-net, what I'd suggest is to make a 
lot of tunable options (ring size, various tx mitigation schemes, 
timeout durations, etc) and then we can do some deep performance studies 
to see how things interact with each other.

I think we should do that before making any changes because I'm deeply 
concerned that we'll introduce significant performance regressions.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-11 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-01-11  7:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] performance improvement for windows guests, running on top of virtio block device Vadim Rozenfeld
2010-01-11  8:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
     [not found]   ` <4B4AE95D.7080305@redhat.com>
2010-01-11  9:19     ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:13         ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 13:16           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:47           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 14:00             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-24  2:58               ` Paul Brook
2010-02-24 14:59                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 15:06                   ` Paul Brook
2010-02-25 15:23                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 16:48                       ` Paul Brook
2010-02-25 17:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-25 17:15                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 17:33                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-25 18:05                           ` malc
2010-02-25 19:55                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26  8:47                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:36                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 15:39                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 13:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:49     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 14:29       ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 14:37         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 14:46           ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:13             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:19               ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:22                 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-01-11 15:31                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:32                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:35                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:38                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 18:22               ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 18:20           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 14:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity

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