From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: Vadim Rozenfeld <vrozenfe@redhat.com>,
Dor Laor <dlaor@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [RFC][PATCH] performance improvement for windows guests, running on top of virtio block device
Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:15:48 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B86B044.6020501@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B86AF40.5090401@redhat.com>
On 02/25/2010 11:11 AM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 02/25/2010 05:06 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
>>>> Idle bottom halves (i.e. qemu_bh_schedule_idle) are just bugs
>>>> waiting to
>>>> happen, and should never be used for anything.
>>> Idle bottom halves make considerable more sense than the normal bottom
>>> halves.
>>>
>>> The fact that rescheduling a bottom half within a bottom half
>>> results in
>>> an infinite loop is absurd. It is equally absurd that bottoms halves
>>> alter the select timeout. The result of that is that if a bottom half
>>> schedules another bottom half, and that bottom half schedules the
>>> previous, you get a tight infinite loop. Since bottom halves are used
>>> often times deep within functions, the result is very subtle infinite
>>> loops (that we've absolutely encountered in the past).
>> I disagree. The "select timeout" is a completely irrelevant
>> implementation
>> detail. Anything that relies on it is just plain wrong. If you
>> require a delay
>> then you should be using a timer. If scheduling a BH directly then
>> you should
>> expect it to be processed without delay.
>
> I agree. Further, once we fine-grain device threading, the iothread
> essentially disappears and is replaced by device-specific threads.
> There's no "idle" anymore.
That's a nice idea, but how is io dispatch handled? Is everything
synchronous or do we continue to program asynchronously?
It's very difficult to mix concepts. I personally don't anticipate
per-device threading but rather anticipate re-entrant device models. I
would expect all I/O to be dispatched within the I/O thread and the VCPU
threads to be able to execute device models simultaneously with the I/O
thread.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-25 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-01-11 7:40 [Qemu-devel] [RFC][PATCH] performance improvement for windows guests, running on top of virtio block device Vadim Rozenfeld
2010-01-11 8:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4B4AE95D.7080305@redhat.com>
2010-01-11 9:19 ` Dor Laor
2010-01-11 13:11 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 13:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 14:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-24 2:58 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-24 14:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 15:06 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-25 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 16:48 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-25 17:11 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-25 17:15 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-02-25 17:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-25 18:05 ` malc
2010-02-25 19:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 8:47 ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-26 14:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 15:39 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 13:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-11 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 14:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 14:46 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:19 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:31 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 15:35 ` Avi Kivity
2010-01-11 15:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-11 18:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 18:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-11 14:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
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