From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: amit.shah@redhat.com, quintela@redhat.com, kraxel@redhat.com,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:33:18 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8D2FBE.5010107@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003021455.49620.paul@codesourcery.com>
On 03/02/2010 08:55 AM, Paul Brook wrote:
>>>> With a new api, cpu_physical_memory_map() changes semantics. It only
>>>> returns pointers for static ram mappings. Everything else is bounced
>>>> which guarantees that an address can't change during DMA.
>>>>
>>> Doesn't this mean that only the initial RAM is directly DMA-able?
>>>
>>> While memory hotplug(and unplug) may be an infrequent event, having the
>>> majority of ram be hotplug seems much more likely.
>>>
>> Hotplug works fine for direct DMA'ing. map/unmap would maintain a
>> reference count on the registered RAM region and hot unplug would not be
>> allowed until that reference dropped to zero. For something like
>> virtio, it means that the driver has to be unloaded in the guest before
>> you hot unplug the region of memory if it happens to be using that
>> region of memory for the ring storage.
>>
>> The key difference is that these regions are created and destroyed
>> rarely and in such a way that the destruction is visible to the guest.
>>
> So you're making ram unmap an asynchronous process, and requiring that the
> address space not be reused until that umap has completed?
>
It technically already would be. If you've got a pending DMA
transaction and you try to hot unplug badness will happen. This is
something that is certainly exploitable.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Paul
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-02 15:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-25 18:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 05/12] virtio: add APIs for queue fields Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:49 ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-26 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 8:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 09/12] vhost: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-02-26 14:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 1:59 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 12:45 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 14:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 15:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 15:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 02/12] kvm: add API to set ioeventfd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 04/12] virtio: add notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 01/12] tap: add interface to get device fd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 07/12] virtio: move typedef to qemu-common Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 17:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 20:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 21:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 22:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 22:39 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-01 19:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-01 21:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 9:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:33 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:55 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-02 15:53 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 16:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 18:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 18:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 22:41 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-03 14:43 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 16:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 11/12] tap: add API to retrieve vhost net header Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 06/12] virtio: add set_status callback Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 08/12] virtio-pci: fill in notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 20:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 03/12] notifier: event notifier implementation Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 12/12] virtio-net: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Anthony Liguori
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