From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: quintela@redhat.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
kraxel@redhat.com, amit.shah@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:15:15 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B8E6EF3.5020605@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003022241.27803.paul@codesourcery.com>
On 03/02/2010 04:41 PM, Paul Brook wrote:
>> The new function I'm proposing has the following semantics:
>>
>> - it always returns a persistent mapping
>> - it never bounces
>> - it will only fail if the mapping isn't ram
>>
> So you're assuming that virtio rings are in ram that is not hot-pluggable
As long as the device is active, yes. This would be true with bare
metal. Memory allocated for the virtio-pci ring is not reclaimable and
you have to be able to reclaim the entire area of ram covered by a DIMM
to hot unplug it. A user would have to unload the virtio-pci module to
release the memory before hot unplug would be an option.
NB, almost nothing supports memory hot remove because it's very
difficult for an OS to actually do.
> or
> remapable,
Yes, it cannot be remapable.
> and the whole region is contiguous?
>
Yes, it has to be contiguous.
> That sounds like it's likely to come back and bite you. The guest has no idea
> which areas of ram happen to be contiguous on the host.
>
Practically speaking, with target-i386 anything that is contiguous in
guest physical memory is contiguous in the host address space provided
it's ram.
These assumptions are important. I have a local branch (that I'll send
out soon) that implements a ram API and converted virtio to make use of
it. I'm seeing a ~50% increase in tx throughput.
If you try to support discontiguous, remapable ram for the virtio ring,
then you have to do an l1_phys_map lookup for every single ring variable
access followed by a memory copy. This ends up costing an awful lot
practically speaking.
The changes should work equally well with syborg although I don't think
I can do meaningful performance testing there (I don't actually have a
syborg image to test).
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Paul
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-03 14:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-25 18:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 05/12] virtio: add APIs for queue fields Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:49 ` Blue Swirl
2010-02-26 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 8:46 ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 09/12] vhost: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-02-26 14:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 14:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 1:59 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 12:45 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 14:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 15:23 ` Paul Brook
2010-02-28 15:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 02/12] kvm: add API to set ioeventfd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 04/12] virtio: add notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 01/12] tap: add interface to get device fd Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 07/12] virtio: move typedef to qemu-common Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 10/12] tap: add vhost/vhostfd options Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-26 14:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-26 15:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-27 19:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 16:08 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 17:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 20:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 21:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-28 22:38 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 22:39 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-01 19:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-01 21:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 9:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 14:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:33 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 14:55 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 15:53 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-02 15:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 16:21 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:12 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 16:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 17:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-02 18:00 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-03-02 18:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-02 22:41 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 14:15 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-03 14:43 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-03 16:24 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 11/12] tap: add API to retrieve vhost net header Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 06/12] virtio: add set_status callback Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 08/12] virtio-pci: fill in notifier support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 20:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 03/12] notifier: event notifier implementation Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-02-28 19:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv2 12/12] virtio-net: vhost net support Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-02-25 19:49 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCHv2 00/12] vhost-net: upstream integration Anthony Liguori
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