From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: bs->enable_write_cache and the guest ABI
Date: Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:48:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B94D60A.7070006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3vdd7yulg.fsf@trasno.mitica>
On 03/08/2010 12:29 PM, Juan Quintela wrote:
> Avi Kivity<avi@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> block.c says:
>>
>>
>>> /*
>>> * Yes, BDRV_O_NOCACHE aka O_DIRECT means we have to present a
>>> * write cache to the guest. We do need the fdatasync to flush
>>> * out transactions for block allocations, and we maybe have a
>>> * volatile write cache in our backing device to deal with.
>>> */
>>> if (flags& (BDRV_O_CACHE_WB|BDRV_O_NOCACHE))
>>> bs->enable_write_cache = 1;
>>>
>> This means that if I start a guest with cache=writethrough and then
>> restart (or live migrate) it with cache=none, then the guest will see
>> a change, even though the user only changed the drive's backing, not
>> something guest visible. In the case of live migration, the guest
>> will not even notice the change and we may be at risk of data loss.
>>
>> For 0.13 I propose setting enable_write_cache to true unconditionally.
>> For 0.12 the question is more difficult, since we'll be changing the
>> guest ABI. Given that guests are unlikely not to be able to cope with
>> write caches, and that the alternative is data loss, I believe that's
>> also the right solution there.
>>
> For RHEL I setted with adding enable_write_cache to the migration
> state. As you state, that value is guest visible. I can update that
> patches to qemu. When I migrated from an old version, I just set that
> value to 0.
>
> What do you think?
>
I think we have to go with a qdev property as Christoph suggests. Then
it becomes the management's responsibility to set it right.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-08 10:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-07 14:42 [Qemu-devel] bs->enable_write_cache and the guest ABI Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 9:39 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-08 9:45 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-08 9:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-08 17:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-08 22:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-08 10:29 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-08 10:48 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-08 12:46 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-08 23:00 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-09 9:56 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-09 19:26 ` Jamie Lokier
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