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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/9] Virtio cleanups
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:49:03 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA7835F.10906@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003221330.02217.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 03/22/2010 08:30 AM, Paul Brook wrote:
>> A VirtIOBlock device cannot be a VirtIODevice while being a
>> VirtIOPCIProxy (proxy is a poor name, btw).
>>
>> It really ought to be:
>>
>> DeviceState ->  VirtIODevice ->  VirtIOBlock
>>
>> and:
>>
>> PCIDevice ->  VirtIOPCI : implements VirtIOBus
>>
>> The interface between the VirtIODevice and VirtIOBus is the virtio
>> transport.
>>
>> The main reason a separate bus is needed is the same reason it's needed
>> in Linux.  VirtIOBlock has to be tied to some bus.  It cannot be tied to
>> the PCI bus without having it be part of the implementation detail.
>> Introducing another bus type fixes this (and it's what we do in the
>>   kernel).
>>      
> Why does virtio need a device state and bus at all?
>    

Because you need VirtIOBlock to have qdev properties that can be set.

You also need VirtIOPCI to have separate qdev properties that can be set.

> Can't it just be an internal implementation interface, which happens to be
> used by all devices that happen to exposed a block device over a virtio
> transport?
>    

Theoretically, yes, but given the rest of the infrastructure's 
interaction with qdev, making it a device makes the most sense IMHO.

> If you have a virtio bus then IMO the PCI bridge device should be independent
> of the virtio device that is connected to it.
>    

Yes, that's the point I'm making.  IOW, there shouldn't be a 
"virtio-net-pci" device.  Instead, there should be a "virtio-pci" device 
that implements a VirtIOBus and then we add a single VirtIODevice to it 
like "virtio-net".

For something like MSI vector support, virtio-net really should have no 
knowledge of MSI-x.  Instead, you should specific nvectors to virtio-pci 
and then virtio-pci should decide how to tie individual queue 
notifications to the amount of MSI vectors it has.

I can't envision any reason why we would ever want to have two MSI 
vectors for a given queue.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Paul
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-16 18:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9] Virtio cleanups Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] qemu/pci: document msix_entries_nr field Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] virtio: Teach virtio-balloon about DO_UPCAST Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] virtio: Teach virtio-blk " Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] virtio: Teach virtio-net " Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] virtio: Use DO_UPCAST instead of a cast Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] virtio-pci: Remove duplicate test Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  8:26     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  8:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  8:59         ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  9:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 11:40             ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 13:24               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 13:47                 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] QLIST: Introduce QLIST_COPY_HEAD Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] virtio-blk: change rq type to VirtIOBlockReq Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] virtio-blk: use QLIST for the list of requests Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  6:40 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/9] Virtio cleanups Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  7:36   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  8:36       ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  9:07         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 11:53           ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 12:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 13:43               ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 13:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 14:21                   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 17:13                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-19  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-21 14:31               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-21 18:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-21 19:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22  1:06                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-22  2:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 13:30                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-22 14:49                           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-22 14:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22 15:03                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 15:17                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22 15:50                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 16:16                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-22 18:48                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 21:00                                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23  1:13                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 15:51                                   ` Paul Brook
2010-03-22 17:19                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22 22:16                                       ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23  0:49                                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23  1:16                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 10:47                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-23 11:11                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 11:40                                               ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 11:58                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-23 12:32                                                   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-21 19:57                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22  1:13                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-22  8:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 10:05         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 15:43     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-18 16:20       ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 16:36         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-18 17:08           ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 17:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 19:37               ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 20:07           ` Anthony Liguori

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