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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/9] Virtio cleanups
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:48:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA7BB8F.9070601@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003221616.29962.paul@codesourcery.com>

On 03/22/2010 11:16 AM, Paul Brook wrote:
>> But look at the lguest virtio implement.  We would definitely model a
>> VirtIOBus if we implemented something like that in qemu.  VirtIO really
>> is designed to be a bus.
>>      
> When you say "bus" you actually mean point-point connection, right[1]?
> I don't see anything in virtio that allows arbitration of multiple devices, or
> any particular need for one as it can be handled by the host bus bindings.
>    

Virtio itself doesn't define any type of bus operations but is designed 
to let it nicely fit into existing bus infrastructures.

If you look at something like lguest, instead of piggying backing on 
another bus, it introduces a bus as part of it's virtio infrastructure.  
It's basically a shared memory page in a well known location.

Anyway, if you were to implement virtio-lguest in qemu, it would have to 
be a bus.  Likewise, the virtio-s390 implement would also have to be a bus.

So overall, virtio-pci is really just a special case of a virtio bus 
that only supports a single device.  Whether you call that p2p I think 
is just a question of semantics.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Paul
>
> [1] Technically I suppose a p-t-p connection is a degenerate case of a bus.
> While modern hardware busses (USB, PCIe) are electrically point-point,
> logically they are usually a shared bus topology.
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-22 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-16 18:51 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9] Virtio cleanups Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] qemu/pci: document msix_entries_nr field Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] virtio: Teach virtio-balloon about DO_UPCAST Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] virtio: Teach virtio-blk " Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] virtio: Teach virtio-net " Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] virtio: Use DO_UPCAST instead of a cast Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] virtio-pci: Remove duplicate test Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:25   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  8:26     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  8:47       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  8:59         ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  9:11           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 11:40             ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 13:24               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 13:47                 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] QLIST: Introduce QLIST_COPY_HEAD Juan Quintela
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] virtio-blk: change rq type to VirtIOBlockReq Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:27   ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-16 18:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] virtio-blk: use QLIST for the list of requests Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  6:40 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/9] Virtio cleanups Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  7:36   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  7:42     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18  8:36       ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18  9:07         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 11:53           ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 12:33             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 13:43               ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 13:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 14:21                   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 17:13                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-19  1:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-21 14:31               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-21 18:11                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-21 19:16                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22  1:06                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-22  2:51                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 13:30                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-22 14:49                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 14:50                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22 15:03                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 15:17                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22 15:50                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 16:16                                     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-22 18:48                                       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-22 21:00                                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23  1:13                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 15:51                                   ` Paul Brook
2010-03-22 17:19                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22 22:16                                       ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23  0:49                                         ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23  1:16                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 10:47                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-23 11:11                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 11:40                                               ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 11:58                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-23 12:32                                                   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-21 19:57                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-22  1:13                     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-22  8:37                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 10:05         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 15:43     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-18 16:20       ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 16:36         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-18 17:08           ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 17:21             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-03-18 19:37               ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-18 20:07           ` Anthony Liguori

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