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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:28:19 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA91653.1020706@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA901B5.3020704@redhat.com>

On 03/23/2010 01:00 PM, Avi Kivity wrote:
> On 03/23/2010 06:06 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> I thought the monitor protocol *was* our API. If not, why not?
>>
>> It is.  But our API is missing key components like guest 
>> enumeration.  So the fundamental topic here is, do we introduce these 
>> missing components to allow people to build directly to our interface 
>> or do we make use of the functionality that libvirt already provides 
>> if they can plumb our API directly to users.
>>
>
> Guest enumeration is another API.
>
> Over the kvm call I suggested a qemu concentrator that would keep 
> track of all running qemus, and would hand out monitor connections to 
> users.  It can do the enumeration (likely using qmp).  Libvirt could 
> talk to that, like it does with other hypervisors.

If you think about network management, it's the difference between 
having a central management server that you add physical machines to, 
verses having physical machines use an advertisement mechanism (like 
mDNS or SLP).  The later mechanism scales better and tends to be more 
robust.

For instance, it's very common for VNC servers to advertise themselves 
via mDNS and it's also common for VNC clients to support this.  It 
requires no central server to keep track of VNC instances and generally 
provides much better usability.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-03-23 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23  8:54       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36     ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23  7:35     ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  0:55         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25             ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25  2:43                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19         ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  7:59       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52         ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  2:22   ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24  8:49     ` Juan Quintela
     [not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23           ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24  1:05             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  4:48             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-23 23:09             ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  5:17           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  0:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  7:49                             ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25  8:26                             ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25  8:49                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09                                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  2:11                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22                                         ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  7:37                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26  9:26                                           ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26  9:51                                           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37                                 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56                                 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14                                     ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16                                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26  2:18                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  6:37                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  8:18                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  5:49             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30               ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03                   ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12                       ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  4:53     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26  2:31       ` Jamie Lokier

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