From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:48:30 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BAA0A1E.2080805@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201003241225.30442.paul@codesourcery.com>
On 03/24/2010 07:25 AM, Paul Brook wrote:
>> I can't quite see what such a libqemu would buy us compared to straight
>> QMP.
>>
>> Talking QMP should be easy, provided you got a suitable JSON library.
>>
> I agree. My undesranding is this was one of the large motivations behind using
> JSON: It's a common protocol that already has convenient bindings in most
> languages. If it's hard[1] for third parties to bind QMP to their favourite
> language/framework then IMHO we've done it wrong.
>
You can't have convenient bindings to an RPC in C because it doesn't
support dynamic dispatch. With most types of RPC, you have an IDL
description and a code generator.
But regardless of that, there are advantages to us providing a libqemu.
The biggest one is that we can standardize transport implementations
that include discovery mechanisms.
If the core of libqemu provided an extensible transport interface, and a
generic QMP request/completion mechanism, in a Python binding, you would
never use the IDL generated wrappers but instead use dynamic dispatch to
invoke arbitrary QMP requests.
But the advantage is that if libvirt provided an API for a QMP transport
encapsulated in their secure protocol, then provided the plumbed that
API through their Python interface, you could use it for free in Python
without having to reinvent the wheel.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Paul
>
> [1] Hard compared to any other sane RPC mechanism. Some languages make
> everything hard :-)
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-03-24 12:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 8:54 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31 ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 7:35 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 0:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-25 2:43 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 7:59 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52 ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 2:22 ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24 8:49 ` Juan Quintela
[not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 1:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 5:17 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 0:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 7:49 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 8:26 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 8:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 2:11 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 7:37 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26 9:26 ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 2:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 6:37 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 8:18 ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 5:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55 ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12 ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 4:53 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 2:31 ` Jamie Lokier
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