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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "libvir-list@redhat.com" <libvir-list@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	Vincent Hanquez <tab@snarc.org>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:40:27 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BABA00B.6020701@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m339zogxbj.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On 03/25/2010 11:50 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
>> The point is, C is a lowest common denominator and it's important to
>> support in a proper way.
>>      
> No.  The lowest truly common denominator is plain text.  And we got that
> covered already.
>
> A developer encountered the problem of talking a simple text protocol.
> He thought "I know, I'll create a 1:1 C API for that".  Now he got two
> problems.
>    

I've done a poor job communicating in this thread.

The C API's primary purpose is *not* to providing 1:1 wrapping functions 
for QMP functions.  That's a minor, add on feature, that I really would 
like, but it not at all useful for high level languages.

The importances of libqemu is:

1) Providing a common QMP transport implementation that is extensible by 
third parties
2) Providing a set of common transports that support automatic discovery 
of command line launched guests
3) Providing a generic QMP dispatch function

Yes, this means you can't just create a JSON-RPC object in Python and 
talk QMP that way, but that's less desirable than you think it is.

You could if you really wanted to, but you wouldn't get the benefits of 
the common transports.

IOW, imagine qemu-cmd.  You want it to support:

# qmp_new_by_name("Fedora")
qemu-cmd Fedora set_link on

# libqemu-ssh.so - ssh_qmp_new()
qemu-cmd ssh://anthony@lab1.ibm/Fedora set_link on

# qmp_new_by_fd()
qemu-cmd -c /path/to/domain/socket set_link on

# libvirt-qemu.so - virDomainGetQMP()
qemu-cmd -b qemu+ssh://lab1.ibm/system Fedora set_link on

This requires a high level transport.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-25 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-22 19:25 [Qemu-devel] Supporting hypervisor specific APIs in libvirt Anthony Liguori
2010-03-22 20:10 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 21:33   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 21:53     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23  8:54       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:25         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:31           ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 10:58             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-22 23:36     ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-22 21:49   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23  7:35     ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-23 23:25       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  0:55         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 10:05           ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 12:25             ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:48               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25  2:43                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 11:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:23     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-22 20:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 10:41   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 10:50     ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 11:08       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 12:19         ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 23:13     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  7:59       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-24 13:52         ` Cole Robinson
2010-03-24 14:00           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2010-03-23 23:19   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  2:22   ` Andi Kleen
2010-03-24  8:49     ` Juan Quintela
     [not found] ` <20100323145105.GV16253@redhat.com>
2010-03-23 15:05   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 15:57     ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 16:06       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 18:00         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:23           ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24  1:05             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  4:48             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:28           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 23:09             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24  5:17           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 10:36             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-24 10:42               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:23                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:29                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:32                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:33                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  0:28                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-24 16:42                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 19:49                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 20:12                     ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 20:32                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 20:54                         ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:33                           ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  7:49                             ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-24 21:25                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-24 21:40                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25  8:26                             ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25  8:49                               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 12:33                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 12:37                                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:44                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:48                                     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 13:57                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 14:09                                         ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 15:59                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26  2:11                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 14:21                                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25 14:22                                         ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 16:50                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-25 17:40                                       ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-03-26  7:37                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-26  9:26                                           ` [libvirt] [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2010-03-26  9:51                                           ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [libvirt] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-26 12:53                                             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 13:53                                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 13:37                                 ` Gildas Le Nadan
2010-03-25 13:59                               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 14:56                                 ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:07                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 15:14                                     ` Vincent Hanquez
2010-03-25 15:16                                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-25 16:01                                         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-25 16:30                                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26  2:18                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-25 13:23                             ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25 13:55                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-26 12:52                                 ` Luiz Capitulino
2010-03-25  6:37                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-25  8:18                           ` Alexander Graf
2010-03-26 16:01                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:19             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:27               ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24 12:32                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 18:07         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2010-03-23 19:24           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  5:49             ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 12:30               ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 12:34                 ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-24 13:03                   ` Paul Brook
2010-03-24 15:55                     ` Markus Armbruster
2010-03-24 16:12                       ` Paul Brook
2010-03-23 23:22         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-23 17:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 19:31   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-24  4:53     ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-26  2:31       ` Jamie Lokier

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